Farming without bagged Fertiliser

sidjon

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EXMOOR
So back to farming without artificial fert, if it is true that red clover can fix up to 250kgN/ha, why aren't more people growing it?
We are our 2nd year so far and quite pleased with first cut. Wait to see silage analysis though.
Ours didn't survive past year two as a good crop, was cut twice and then grazed, heavy acid winter waterlogged soil did it no favours, white works much much better.
 
Tow n fert speedway stylie.
Might go missing before next weeks meet 😜

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Walwyn

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West Wales
we buy a true liquid n which we apply via dribble bars and then buy in various products depending on what’s needed. current go to is triple ten which comes in 17.5l cans and you only need 2l ha.
The only caution I would suggest is that many products will need a pre mix anyway not least granular humic as it’s not 100% soluble so you couldn’t Chuck it into the TnF anyway without a pre mix.
The NTS soluble granules you can chuck straight into the T&F
 

Homesy

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Location
North West Devon
So for 11.5k they can build all the gubbins.
60+k for the 4000l seems steep. A chassis, and bigger tank 2x booms. The mixing aspect is the same
Yes but it's from New Zealand and there are many disciples who will buy them.
Instead you could buy a secondhand 4000l sprayer,a couple of nozzles,chop the booms pre mix in a separate tank and all for less than the price of a quad tow n fert.
 

DairyNerd

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Livestock Farmer
Another tangent.

Clover seed sprinkled on the creep feed for the (suckled) calves and let them leave it in little piles around the fields?
I'm going to try this, feeding it to milking cows in the parlour with their cake though. No idea if it will work but i think it's worth a try, heard of several people doing the same and have said they find it as successful as overseeding with harrows/spinner, others say it won't work so well so who knows!
 
Yes but it's from New Zealand and there are many disciples who will buy them.
Instead you could buy a secondhand 4000l sprayer,a couple of nozzles,chop the booms pre mix in a separate tank and all for less than the price of a quad tow n fert.
Will any booms stick it?
Pre mixing needs tanks and pumps, it's deffinatly cheaper, but has a cost. The last 20k on a TNF seems to be profit!
 

Nearly

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Location
North of York
I'm going to try this, feeding it to milking cows in the parlour with their cake though. No idea if it will work but i think it's worth a try, heard of several people doing the same and have said they find it as successful as overseeding with harrows/spinner, others say it won't work so well so who knows!
More chance with adult cows than calves.
Calves may chew the cud that fine that the seeds are spoilt.
Docks seem to make it through anything!
 
I would not be risking a proportion of the clover seed being lost in the guts of a cow. & the survivers being spread in a totally random manner
Cut out the middle man & put it straight in a seed bed
 
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vantage

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Location
Pembs
Perhaps the 500 is a loss leader, to get people interested?
I’ve got a 1200, when you start to look at it in detail, there’s a lot of stainless steel taps, fittings and associated bits, pretty sure each model will be up scaled too. As an example, I have two taps on my bulk tank, very similar, they cost £2500, more than 2 years ago.
 

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Five nature-recovery projects spanning 100,000ha launched

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Written by Michelle Martin from Agriland

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Five nature-recovery projects spanning nearly 100,000ha across the West Midlands, Cambridgeshire, the Peak District, Norfolk and Somerset have been announced by the government and Natural England today (Thursday, May 26).

This is the equivalent in size to all 219 current National Reserves.

The aim of the projects is to deliver nature recovery at a landscape scale, helping to tackle biodiversity loss, climate change and improve public health and well-being.

All five projects will make a significant contribution towards the national delivery of the international commitment to protect at least 30% of land and...
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