No we melt urea ourselves to spray on
Farming without bagged Fertiliser
- Thread starter happycows
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- Scotland
dowcow
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- Location
- Lancashire
Very rarely. A good few years ago we used worming boluses, a timed release of wormer every 5 weeks thing, and it resulted in a few older animals needing worming that previously would have just had a few doses as needed as youngstock. Over-worming basically didn't allow them to build any immunity.
As for the nitrogen. Our farm carbon profile has us in the top few percent for least nitrogen used per litre of milk. All our slurry goes on with a splashplate. Muck is ploughed in. Cultivation is always via plough. Rotation is usually maize, then barley with vetch wholecrop, then autumn sown white-clover/grass for several years, and quite a few permanent pastures. Sprays usually consist of glyphosate before the maize, a post-emergence 4-leaf+ herbicide and feed on the maize, and extremely rarely anything else on any other crops. Ivermectin is usually used on youngstock.
- Location
- Northern Ireland
Are you spraying it on with a conventional sprayer or a purpose built one? Any idea what the nozzles are called that the specialised machines like tow and fert use?
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No never seen scorch
We have been using conventional nozzles yes, not sure which ones tow and fert use but I hope to trial a few options next year.
There are heaps of boomless nozzles online.
- Location
- cornwall
Urea gone past £500 tonne!
we gonna have to change something next year if this carries on!
we gonna have to change something next year if this carries on!
Farmer Keith
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- Location
- North Cumbria
Realistically what do you change? Spreading clover seed in February is hardly going to save the day. Destock maybe?
De stock won't pay a mortgage
Farmer Keith
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- Location
- North Cumbria
Exactly, I can’t see much option in the short term but to pay the price.
Jdunn55
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- Location
- Helston, cornwall
I'm hoping this is just scaremongering to get people to buy it now thinking there's going to ve a shortage, come late spring I reckon it'll be cheaper, not to normal levels but less than it is now, not much help if you don't have anyt in the shed and need some in early spring though!
- Location
- South Molton
Pass the price rises onto buyer/consumers
GDT keeps rising,
Neither will loosing money
GDT keeps rising,
Neither will loosing money
Cows 'n grass
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- Location
- Modbury, South Devon
Pay up will be the only option here. Fortunately I bought 1 load of urea at a mere £390. The difference between urea at £250 and £500 here will cost me 1 ppl.
- Location
- Northumberland
Interesting
So disapointing but not terminal
What chance of milk up 2ppl by spring ?
- Location
- Pembrokeshire
Feet will be needed early on and it’ll be a case of slurry / fym and try and get the clover going
Is there gonna be any Hgv drivers about to deliver it anyway
Is there gonna be any Hgv drivers about to deliver it anyway
Jdunn55
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- Location
- Helston, cornwall
Heres my attempt at changing things to become less reliant on fertiliser
25 days since last grazed 75kgdm growth per day nil fertiliser
Oh and they're paying me to grow it...
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- Pembrokeshire
That’s massive covers to be grazing,
There doing the same here and milks dropping every day
Cows 'n grass
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- Location
- Modbury, South Devon
Supermarket COP contracts will be 35ppl by spring but I don't know about the rest.
More worrying is where feed prices will be next year with fertilizer prices where they are. This isn't just CF and Yara scaremongering, urea prices across the world are sky high.
We're in for a bumpy ride in the next few years.
Jdunn55
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- Location
- Helston, cornwall
Yes and yes, I physically cannot keep on top of grass atm, and I really don't want to be cutting anymore grass just done 120 acres of third and fourth cut 
But then again, building covers going into autumn isn't such a bad thing so long as I can keep grazing
Ryegrass without fertiliser isn't massively behind, roughly 40-50kgdm growth
But then again, building covers going into autumn isn't such a bad thing so long as I can keep grazing
Ryegrass without fertiliser isn't massively behind, roughly 40-50kgdm growth