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Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
I came across this on facebook, I am a member of a group NZ farming, here in the UK I get the impression everyone thinks the NZ prime minister is wonderful, but the posts on the facebook group show a completely different picture, of a government who really has no understanding of agriculture and has it in for farming and the countryside (a bit like the UK really).
 

midlandslad

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Location
Midlands
I think that the banks hold the key as they will be funding a lot of the farm and land purchases and of their ability to lend due to reduced BPS changes there will be a drop in areas. We are already starting to see them get more nervous and unwilling to support some businesses with a large reliance on BPS. Affordability and serviceability is key.
 

Tubbylew

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Location
Herefordshire
I came across this on facebook, I am a member of a group NZ farming, here in the UK I get the impression everyone thinks the NZ prime minister is wonderful, but the posts on the facebook group show a completely different picture, of a government who really has no understanding of agriculture and has it in for farming and the countryside (a bit like the UK really).
It's the same problems the world over, I seriously considered emigrating to nz about 15 yrs ago, circumstances dictated that it wasn't possible, but I don't think I'd have been much better off tbh, particularly if involved with farming, may have been different in another industry, I'm not really sure if there are any countries in the world that value their farmers tbh, and it's likely always been the same.
 

teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I was delivering to the outskirts of Derby yesterday. New build cul-de-sac. Scant change from half a million for a three bed, garden less identikit cardboard box house.

If you crystallised the pension income of an early retired public sector worker it would easily top £1m.

Chancellor reckons that there's £125bn in spare change in the economy just waiting to get spent.....on houses, Primark tat, and overseas imports / holidays.
 

serf

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Location
warwickshire
Even if there was an increase in supply of farms/land for sale, I can't see prices dropping, if anything they're on the way up again in my opinion.

A 50 acre block of rough grazing land was sold this winter here (West Midlands), nothing special and no development potential, you could silage it but you wouldn't want to grow crops on it. Spoke to the agent the other day who sold it and it had made £11,500 an acre, he said he could have sold it 20 times over, he even had town folk from the nearby village after it bidding £9-10k an acre, a large dairy farm bought it in the end but it just shows what funds are out there. Half a million isn't much money now to some retired people, and as @GeorgeK has noted, a half decent house in the countryside can soak up the best part of £1m.
There's masses of development money around Midlands needing to find a home underpinning things .
 

HarryB97

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Mixed Farmer
Been lots of stunning farms for sale around here the last few years. However being near the cotswolds and Oxford there’s lots of money about and housing cash to spend. None ever comes up when you want it or a better bit pops up just after you have bought a different bit!
 
It's the same problems the world over, I seriously considered emigrating to nz about 15 yrs ago, circumstances dictated that it wasn't possible, but I don't think I'd have been much better off tbh, particularly if involved with farming, may have been different in another industry, I'm not really sure if there are any countries in the world that value their farmers tbh, and it's likely always been the same.

Then try the U.S.A. where farmers/ranchers are well regarded. The link to the land remains strong in American culture and in many ways' defines who we are.
 

daveydiesel1

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
Then try the U.S.A. where farmers/ranchers are well regarded. The link to the land remains strong in American culture and in many ways' defines who we are.
Would love to be movin to usa or canada to big grain farm but as the farm still belongs to me da iv nothin to sell to raise funds. But man it would be mighty to be farmin big open level fields instead of flower pot farmin here in ni
 

Cowcorn

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Mixed Farmer
Would love to be movin to usa or canada to big grain farm but as the farm still belongs to me da iv nothin to sell to raise funds. But man it would be mighty to be farmin big open level fields instead of flower pot farmin here in ni
Easy there Tiger !!! Faraway hills are always green, but farming grain in Canada or some us states is not for the faint hearted . Some who emigrated have done well , bought the right farm or got on the cycle at the right junction .
Others have been less fortunate and had to sell up and return home . Bad weather and crop loss can be a breaker !!!
Me ?? In the event of a some of my land getting zoned for building or winning the euromillions im going to hit for lincs and play the " barley baron ":):):):)
 

Bob the beef

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Scot Borders
Would love to be movin to usa or canada to big grain farm but as the farm still belongs to me da iv nothin to sell to raise funds. But man it would be mighty to be farmin big open level fields instead of flower pot farmin here in ni
I know 2 families that sold up in this neck of the woods and bought in Canada in the late 80’s /early 90’s. Both had what looked like decent grain / stock farms of a good size.
Neither family are still farming. Extremes of weather and family not settling or pulling together did for them both.
 
Easy there Tiger !!! Faraway hills are always green, but farming grain in Canada or some us states is not for the faint hearted . Some who emigrated have done well , bought the right farm or got on the cycle at the right junction .
Others have been less fortunate and had to sell up and return home . Bad weather and crop loss can be a breaker !!!
Me ?? In the event of a some of my land getting zoned for building or winning the euromillions im going to hit for lincs and play the " barley baron ":):):):)

Cannot answer for the Canadian system but here in the U.S. we have various types of crop insurance, choose the type you need for your operation and it will help you sleep.
People go to Canada for the promise of lower land prices but if that limits the type of crops' you can raise it would be better to aim for a more moderate climate further south.
 

jendan

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
I know 2 families that sold up in this neck of the woods and bought in Canada in the late 80’s /early 90’s. Both had what looked like decent grain / stock farms of a good size.
Neither family are still farming. Extremes of weather and family not settling or pulling together did for them both.
Is Robertsons who had the Airies cow herd still over there ?
 

Flatlander

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lorette Manitoba
I moved to Canada twenty years ago and what was said above is very true. Some farming farming families moved here with the view Is was the promised land and the lure of cheap land and relative farming freedom couldn’t be passed up. I personally know many that moved from other countries and have done very well here but they all faced the same problems of the wives being away from friends and families,kids funding it hard to adjust to new schools without there friends and the general feeling that your all alone in the middle of no where. The men in general were fine as working in a new venture and the dream of making a go of things was what got them thru. The first couple of years was tough for me but I was lucky enough to meet other European farmers that had been here longer and just having that slight support network was comforting. For the most part it’s a great place to farm weather can be challenging and prices fluctuate but the one underlying factor of cheaper land and supply of it coming to market makes expansion possible.
At the moment farmer are still respected and considered vital to every community. It’s changed a lot in twenty years and I see it going the same way as Europe but for now it’s still a great place to farm and live.
 

Humble Village Farmer

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BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
I came across this on facebook, I am a member of a group NZ farming, here in the UK I get the impression everyone thinks the NZ prime minister is wonderful, but the posts on the facebook group show a completely different picture, of a government who really has no understanding of agriculture and has it in for farming and the countryside (a bit like the UK really).
Sounds familiar?
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
Easy there Tiger !!! Faraway hills are always green, but farming grain in Canada or some us states is not for the faint hearted . Some who emigrated have done well , bought the right farm or got on the cycle at the right junction .
Others have been less fortunate and had to sell up and return home . Bad weather and crop loss can be a breaker !!!
Me ?? In the event of a some of my land getting zoned for building or winning the euromillions im going to hit for lincs and play the " barley baron ":):):):)
I have read Gabe Brown's book (dirt to soil) and did he have four or five harvests that were a complete failure (I seem to remember hail amongst other things), so as you say, not for the faint hearted.
 

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