Fastrack 4220

Discussion in 'Machinery' started by saly123, Jan 26, 2019.

  1. saly123

    saly123 Member

    Location:
    Wales
    Just curious on thoughts on these for ploughing.? And does anybody plough with a press.? Wondering what visibility would be like using a press...
    thanks.
     
  2. Chae1

    Chae1 Member

    Location:
    Aberdeenshire
    Id a demo 4220 a few years ago and had it on plough, i thought it was great.
     
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  3. davidroberts30

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    Have you asked paul?
     
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  4. saly123

    saly123 Member

    Location:
    Wales
    Nah I’ve not. But he uses a front swing over press.
     
  5. davidroberts30

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    Ah ,is your press on the plough?
     
  6. bobk

    bobk Member

    Location:
    stafford
    Is the tractor in 4ws when ploughing ? could be interesting . certainly need it when turning .
     
  7. saly123

    saly123 Member

    Location:
    Wales
    It’s a big disc press that drags along. Attach it and detach it at end of every run. IMG_2354.jpg
     
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  8. saly123

    saly123 Member

    Location:
    Wales
    Was wondering with a fastrack if the visibility of press wouldn’t be so good
     
  9. Chae1

    Chae1 Member

    Location:
    Aberdeenshire
    There's a delay setting. 4ws doesn't kick in until front wheel passes a certain angle. Got it on my 2170 too. Handy for spraying also .
     
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  10. bobk

    bobk Member

    Location:
    stafford
    Wish I'd got that , like turning an aircraft carrier round .
     
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  11. Chae1

    Chae1 Member

    Location:
    Aberdeenshire
    Its only available on 2000 series and new 4000s. At least you've got a nice big comfy cab.
     
  12. snarling bee

    snarling bee Member

    Location:
    Bedford
    We had a demo 4220 and did some ploughing, driver thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. Just taken delivery of a used 4220 and I am very pleased so far. Visibility not brilliant when hitching up, but when you are using it the comfort is impressive.
     
  13. saly123

    saly123 Member

    Location:
    Wales
    Was your driver pulling a press with plough.?
     
  14. Fendtbro

    Fendtbro Member

    Now we've not tried ours on the plough, mainly as I have a good contractor for that.. but would think that is the one job it will struggle more with. I'm sure it will be fine in good conditions but 220hp fastrac has to compete with a 724 and it just won't with little back wheels when the going gets steep and wet.. The 4220 has to be able to deal with 5 furrows in these conditions and 6 furrows in good going. Even with plenty of ballast, when the tractor is trying to dig in on a steep climb, the rear wheels are doing nearly all the work with the weight of 5 furrows loaded with ground. The best way to achieve grip is a long contact area from tyre to ground and that is what the fastrac does not have.. The salesmen keep suggesting dropping tyre pressures, but that is only possible if the endrigs are fairly level.. start dropping pressures with a long beam 5 furrow hanging swung out the side and on any real sidehill you will have the tyre folded in half and the rim running on the ground.. not nice. i'm convinced that taller wheels will always offer more grip but if other people have found otherwise then i'm happy to be proven wrong as the 4220 is a great machine!
     
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  15. Do mean speed star
     
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  16. KB6930

    KB6930 Member

    Location:
    Borders
    I 've not got a press but when I had one on demo I ploughed with it and was very impressed when o dropped the tyre pressures and as above I was very impressed by the visibility to the front furrow so can't see a press being any issues whatsoever
     
  17. davidroberts30

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    No I mean @saly123 far neighbour
     
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  18. grass man

    grass man Member

    Just been watching George Saunders on you tube, fastrac versus fendt on 6 furrows. Don't know how much harder it is to get grip 'on land' for the fendt but I'm very very impressed with the fastracs performance. Ploughing side by side in the same field so can't get a better test than that
     
  19. charlie850

    charlie850 Member

    Fastrac does have different weight contribution compared to a standard tractor and the 4220 with its suspension should contribute more weight to front
    Local farm near me bought a 4220 and one of the reasons for buying 1 was how well it managed a 6f Kuhn plough in not so ideal conditions
     
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  20. Foxcover

    Foxcover Member

    Superb, haven’t used one on a plough but in furrow they’d be brill as you’re on 540 or 600 tyres which will grip well and not trample ploughing.
    As I’ve mentioned previously, had one for 3 days on trio, corn cart and carrier. On trio it wiped the floor with a JD7230.
    Didn’t want to get off it!
     
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