Februdairy

[Fergieman]

From Facebook, Steak house in the Ukraine.

 

[William Mellor]

Looking at Twitter it’s clear to see Februdairy has turned into a vegans against dairy farmers campaign

 

[jondear]

Looking at Twitter it’s clear to see Februdairy has turned into a vegans against dairy farmers campaign

What did people expect .!Like flies to shite!
It's only the nutters that comment.

 

[Beef farmer]

Your latest post @Cows 'n grass is very good. Is your daughter growing up really fast or are your calves that small?

 

[Cows 'n grass]

Your latest post @Cows 'n grass is very good. Is your daughter growing up really fast or are your calves that small?

A bit of both, she is quite a brute but there are a couple of heifers out of heifers that are tiny. The first was born a fortnight ago but probably only weighs 10kg, she's not a lot bigger now but very lively.

 

[Chips]

Must be time for a vegan tax to help save the planet !
https://qz.com/749443/being-vegan-isnt-as-environmentally-friendly-as-you-think/

 

[Clay52]

I haven't actually had any vegan attacks to my tweets so far although I got a few in Jan when I waded into a discussion about land use as they are all convinced we can grow vegetables and other human food plants on every square inch of land. As we have some biologically important flood and hay meadows I can come at it from a different angle than pure perennial ryegrass and they're not sure how to argue with that one! Interestingly the whole 'rape rack' thing seems to have gone away once #teamdairy all said the only people they'd ever heard use it were vegans, topped off by the general ridiculing of one who was convinced that a photo of a rotary parlour was a 'rape rack'. Just don't lower yourself to their level of swearing and abuse. Most of us are ignoring them rather than getting into arguments which will never change their minds, and just putting up great info about our industry. Just read tweets carefully before retweeting or liking stuff - they have created some crafty spoofs of the tellitlikeitis resources.

PS as most of us don't know what a ' rape rack' is, as it's a term that is never used in the industry, it is supposedly the 'industry term' for an AI pen/crush.

I asked some vegans what a rape rack was as I have never heard of it and they wouldn’t explain what it was.

I also explained that AI is heaps safer and less stressful for cows than being mounted multiple times by 1000kg plus bulls. They ignored that too.

They seem to realize that their veggies they eat still kill some animals by displacing habitat, planting and harvesting but conveniently ignore that too.

Just like a lot of people these days they want to get on their moral high horse and claim they are better and other people are doing it wrong. But they will conviently ignore the flaws in their logic to keep the religion going. It’s not too much different to organic really.

 

[Beef farmer]

A bit of both, she is quite a brute but there are a couple of heifers out of heifers that are tiny. The first was born a fortnight ago but probably only weighs 10kg, she's not a lot bigger now but very lively.

What sort of cost was the LMS setup?

 

[Chips]

Interesting bit of balance
https://gpfarmblog.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/can-the-world-go-vegan-a-studied-viewpoint-re/amp/

 

[Chris F]

Be nice to see some more quality advertising to support milk sales - if you are 40 and over you should remember this one:

 

[Princess Pooper]

Be nice to see some more quality advertising to support milk sales - if you are 40 and over you should remember this one:

Most of the old milk ads are on youtube - some a little risqué for today's puritan times but I love them ...... #gotalottabottle

 

[cornishfarmer]

What are vegans ethics on pets? Yes or no?

 

[jondear]

What are vegans ethics on pets? Yes or no?

Eat them or keep them!

 

[Sid]

Eat them or keep them!

The Vegans or pets?

 

[Princess Pooper]

What are vegans ethics on pets? Yes or no?

Varied.
Hardcore - no pets, it's another form of animal exploitation.
Slightly less hardcore - yes, as long as it's a rescue pet.
Soft vegan - any pets, after all, 'we are animal lovers so we're entitled, we don't abuse them because we're vegans'. Now, what they would feed their cats and dogs on if the world became vegan, I dread to think..

 

[Chris F]

Here we go:

https://dairy.ahdb.org.uk/materials#.WoyOlahl82y

 

[Mr Jones]

Varied.
Hardcore - no pets, it's another form of animal exploitation.
Slightly less hardcore - yes, as long as it's a rescue pet.
Soft vegan - any pets, after all, 'we are animal lovers so we're entitled, we don't abuse them because we're vegans'. Now, what they would feed their cats and dogs on if the world became vegan, I dread to think..

You forgot option D. The pretentious vegan. George Monibot a classic example.

 

[Clay52]

If you chat with vegans you quickly understand that there is no compromise. They issues they bring up with dairy are not actual issues. They are just ammunition to attempt to end farming. They actually don’t care about AI vs natural, bull calves, dehorning or better animal welfare. They want farming to end.

The bottom line is they believe a cow or any animal and humans life are exactly equal. No improvents to farm welfare will make them happy ever.

This is why I say we need to be careful of just doing everything the consumer wants. A lot of what the consumer “wants” is just animals rights misinformation pushed down peoples throats. They are much better at marketing than us dairy farmers.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

If you chat with vegans you quickly understand that there is no compromise. They issues they bring up with dairy are not actual issues. They are just ammunition to attempt to end farming. They actually don’t care about AI vs natural, bull calves, dehorning or better animal welfare. They want farming to end.

The bottom line is they believe a cow or any animal and humans life are exactly equal. No improvents to farm welfare will make them happy ever.

This is why I say we need to be careful of just doing everything the consumer wants. A lot of what the consumer “wants” is just animals rights misinformation pushed down peoples throats. They are much better at marketing than us dairy farmers.

I completely agree about the vegan bit, there's just no point talking to them but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try harder to market the good work we do. We just need to aim it at the middle ground so that these people aren't put off buying dairy products by all the online videos of horrendous animal cruelty that the vegan fraternity claim to be standard practice in dairy farming.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

It's that time of year again.

If anyone is on Instagram and would like to follow my wife's effort to explain why we do what we do then she has set up a dedicated page that she plans to carry on through the year. Her page is goldtoptales