This works great for horses and sheep, no idea about cattle though. We use sheep ring feeders rather than the tombstone type. http://www.coastalnets.co.uk/hay-nets.htm make a whole bale net but it's £50ish
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All baled + chopped with a mchaleYou need to get your bales chopped
I'd be concerned that I'd get there one morning to find one with its hoof caught up and dragging whole lot about.This works great for horses and sheep, no idea about cattle though. We use sheep ring feeders rather than the tombstone type. http://www.coastalnets.co.uk/hay-nets.htm make a whole bale net but it's £50ish
All baled + chopped with a mchale
Yes we do mostly clamp silage and maize and mix on floor with handler bucket, have considered tub before. Just with suckler cows we give them a bale of dry haylage in ringfeeder to raise DM a bit and calves chew on it. Pull a lot through for some reasonYou need a tub feeder, no need for elevator, just use front loader tractor. Lift feeder, discharge enough for up to ring level, and replace feeder. If out wintering use loader tractor on feeder. you can mix wet and dry bales, add minerals, add cake.
i borrowed a tombstone feed ring as my bull kept getting his head stuck in the heston bale feeder and had to cut him out i,it was a surprise to me as there was hardly any pulled out and wasted, watching them eat it seams like they can pull at bale by lifting there heads up and not having to step back and drop it on the floor but certainly a lot less waste to my surpriseI tried this and they just pull big sheets off the top.
I also tried putting ratchet straps around the bale and that kept it tidy for . . . 1 day.
How does a tombstone feeder reduce waste - from looking at it I would have thought it would be even easier for them to pull through.
i borrowed a tombstone feed ring as my bull kept getting his head stuck in the heston bale feeder and had to cut him out i,it was a surprise to me as there was hardly any pulled out and wasted, watching them eat it seams like they can pull at bale by lifting there heads up and not having to step back and drop it on the floor but certainly a lot less waste to my surprise
box type feeder?Spot on. We see a lot of waste if there is a bully in the pen or the feeder is the wrong height/size to be comfortable. The cattle will continually back out to face the bully or to eat what they've dragged out.
We've found that the box type feeders work much better for some reason
here is the one i am not using now and had the wastage in made it myself may be thats the problem
here is the one i am not using now and had the wastage in made it myself may be thats the problem View attachment 448620
may have put pictures on when i made itDid you post pics of that before, really nice job. No, I don't think the box is the problem, it's the positioning of it. We always put the narrow side against a wall or gate in the buildings we use them so we can dump shear grabs of silo in from the outside. We do also use two roundbales in each one at times so I can appreciate the potential losses of a longer forage. The wider one from iae is just big enough to take a grab width narrow end on. I think it is the fact the cattle feel more secure because it's not like a giant roundabout and they feel more secure.
Probably wrong though.
I understand this but am still confused as why the tombstone feeders are better than rings with straight barsDiagonal bars waste less than vertical bars as they have to twist their heads to get to the feed.
I understand this but am still confused as why the tombstone feeders are better than rings with straight bars
I seam to get a hell of a lot of waste from ring feeders. seen an hear a lot of ideas to stop sheep pulling it out.. bigger feeder... 3 sections etc but all these stop the sheep getting to feed in the middle