You may have to define that more carefully. My main income is not agriculture, but I have a holding number and own some livestock.
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You may have to define that more carefully. My main income is not agriculture, but I have a holding number and own some livestock.
Mr Mackay
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- Location
- HMP Slade , Shropshire
That's what you need to take care over , getting them thin enough!! cut them thinner to start with or spent a fair bit of time with the flapwheel on the grinder I usually leave a bit on the instep. Depends on your wellie space and socks
Toe necrosis,hard to sort!
As recommended on here wrap up with tylan powder and change every 3 days,worked on my last one.
- Location
- Derbyshire
Yes looks like the start of toe necrosis. It will smell of cabbage. As above. Looks like you may have caught it early.
Headless chicken
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- Location
- West Wales
I wouldn't go anymore than 3 days either. Ideally bandages off within 48hours IMO. Try and keep it clean and dry if that's at all possible
Cows 'n grass
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- Location
- Modbury, South Devon
What causes this where the sole becomes underun?
Is this WL that I've missed and it's started to spread inwards or as a result of bruising?
I've seen quite a few of them this autumn and I've sometimes had to remove almost the whole sole. They tend to be quite satisfying though become the cow will often hop into the crush, hardly baring any weight on the affected foot and trot out with a block on walking perfectly well.
Is this WL that I've missed and it's started to spread inwards or as a result of bruising?
I've seen quite a few of them this autumn and I've sometimes had to remove almost the whole sole. They tend to be quite satisfying though become the cow will often hop into the crush, hardly baring any weight on the affected foot and trot out with a block on walking perfectly well.
buffalo_soldier
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- Location
- cumbria
That's caused by overgrown/incorrect feet I think.
Think standing about in slurry/mud too long is a factor as well.
Think standing about in slurry/mud too long is a factor as well.
lazy farmer
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- Location
- som/dor border
my feeling is that its WL under running.
Cows 'n grass
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- Location
- Modbury, South Devon
I wouldn't really say they were on obviously misshapen claws, they might have wanted a bit of tidying up but nothing major.
They're definitely not standing about in slurry, that not something we make a lot of but we do make quite a lot of mud and they would have been standing in and walking through plenty of that this autumn.
buffalo_soldier
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- Location
- cumbria
Do you increase footbathing frequency during a muddy period?
That would be the textbook preventative, but you wont prevent at 100% obviously.
- Location
- Pembrokeshire
It's a wl what has travelled along bottom of foot and become underun. nothing to do with overgrown or standing in mud/slurry
organicguy
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- Location
- North East of the south west
I,d be fairly sure it is where the pus has burst out from a WL abscess. Usually you can follow it back to the WL where the infection has started. We have a protocol that all lame cows are seen within 24hrs. Doesn't always work but if you do you find the pus under the sole, not the flap of skin at the heel.
- Location
- Derbyshire
As buffalo farmer says, that looks like slurry heel. It is fairly common in the winter and causes some slightly different problems. I would always trim the loose away from something like that WITHOUT taking away any structural horn at the heel.
White line disease will usually be seen as a black line and slight separation at the outer edge at the back of the outer claw (on back feet... it is usually seen in back feet). It is not always that evident. This can cause the underrun soles but you can sometimes get a sole separation as a result of a sole fracture. I will try to find a pic
- Location
- Derbyshire
These heel sole fractures are quite rare. You can see where that has caused an under run sole. A standard sole ulcer is a form of sole fracture but much more common.
PS there was more prepping before this foot was put down. It was blocked and bandaged (as this farm had DD)... only blocked as it was corkscrewed. Would seriously consider culling for something like this at the end of lactation
supercow
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- Location
- Dumfriesshire
That foot looks too bad to consider serving again @Sandpit Farm .
Eh? Are we looking at the same picture? It's not slurry heel. I don't think BF said that either. As Organicguy has said, it's underrun. If you follow it through you should come to a clear area of problem. Cows can recover depending on where and how bad the problem is. If it leads to a problem in the toe area then you're on a sticky wicket and you should get rid.
Without seeing another photo of the more trimmed out foot it's difficult to comment further.
We’ve had a lot of WL and underrun soles this year in autumn as well and run a very similar system to Cows ‘n grass. usually starts near the toe and I put it down to fighting over silage, normally take most of the sole off and sometimes take a bridge out near the side wall above white line, loose house with plenty of feed and should heel within 2-3 months, block other good hoof and replace when nessacery, if still not fully grown back at calving put her on oad.
Cows 'n grass
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- Modbury, South Devon
What's this. This is one cow with growths on both back feet. They're not raw and she's not lame. Please don't say it's digi because I've never had a case.
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