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Homesy

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Location
North West Devon
Does anyone find any difference between the hooftite winter and normal glues? The winter being the blue coloured one. I've found that wooden blocks are coming off after a few days with the winter glue. Could all be in my head though...
The winter glue sets quicker in the cold. If it is a mild day you need to be pretty quick applying it or it will have gone too far. You can use the normal glues so long as you keep the tubes warm and heat the block and hoof.
 

New2itall

Member
Have a first calved beef heifer with a shocking bad infected hoof up in between the claws. Swollen at the heel. Infection seems worse in between but hoof itself is soft at the heel. Have been applying copper sulphate between mixed with sudocream as something to bond the powder with. Also now started 2nd bottle of synulox and 20ml metacam.
Poor animal is struggling to walk at all.
Any criticism/further advice on above welcome. Have pared hoof now but can possibly get a picture up tomorrow.
TIA
 

Whitewalker

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Have a first calved beef heifer with a shocking bad infected hoof up in between the claws. Swollen at the heel. Infection seems worse in between but hoof itself is soft at the heel. Have been applying copper sulphate between mixed with sudocream as something to bond the powder with. Also now started 2nd bottle of synulox and 20ml metacam.
Poor animal is struggling to walk at all.
Any criticism/further advice on above welcome. Have pared hoof now but can possibly get a picture up tomorrow.
TIA
Maybe just one of those cases that gets away from you . It’s sickening trying to clear something like that. Remember exenel used to be very good for those types, thankfully haven’t had any in a while.
 

Spudley

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Location
Pembrokeshire
And any advice on this one? It started as a white line abcess but it's gone up the side. I have been trimming it every 3 or 4 weeks and when she was milking I was washing her foot in the parlour and putting blue spray on it. The last time she was trimmed I thought it was nearly out but now tonight it's looking very inflamed again. She is dry and due in 3 weeks.
 

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Sandpit Farm

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Derbyshire
And any advice on this one? It started as a white line abcess but it's gone up the side. I have been trimming it every 3 or 4 weeks and when she was milking I was washing her foot in the parlour and putting blue spray on it. The last time she was trimmed I thought it was nearly out but now tonight it's looking very inflamed again. She is dry and due in 3 weeks.

It has turned into a fairly major wall ulcer - may even have an abscess. The wall is going to grow at about 5mm every 6 weeks so it will keep pinching it. You need to get someone in who can carefully pare it back and apply a block that will stay on. She then needs pain relief and to be on a straw pad and brought in last for milking each day. This is to protect the claw on which you’ve applied the block... it will bruise like mad if you aren’t careful and an ulcer on that renders her completely useless.

I don’t think she should be served again if you see no improvement in the next 50 days.

A vet would be able to apply a local anaesthetic to pare it back.
 
Anyone have success with taking toes off??
I had one in 2009 broke coronary band 8 weeks before calving as maiden heifer did 8 lactation’s.
Did have a couple of rest spells on straw when she had a issue but well worth doing.
I’ve got one due 6th of June with toe necrosis. She had Micotil injection last year at drying off and trim from vets but after persistent trying I can’t rid it. She’s done 10400l and got incalf quick. Got to be worth a try?
 

Cowmansam

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Shropshire
Have seen less than ten done and I reckon if they last the season they will last a few years but it always lets them down in the end lighter cows tend to manage better than square types you tend to find out within a few weeks if there going to do or not if you go for it do it sooner rather than later and stick hoof glue all over the bottom off the remaining claw as they will get worn down fast and end up sore on that too
 

Sandpit Farm

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Derbyshire
Suggestions of removing the claw are fair (but obviously that's a vet job! so they will be best place to advise). In honesty, it is probably the cheapest option with less pain if the plan is to cull her at the end of the lactation. Depends what it looks like when pared back. You just have to be prepared to look after her remaining claw. Keep her close, ideally on a straw pad but at least close by to the farm so she isn't walking far. It'd be worth picking it up every 6 weeks or so to dish under the bone. Front feet take all the weight so you have to understand it will bruise like mad if not dished under the pedal bone.
 

Homesy

Member
Location
North West Devon
Anyone have success with taking toes off??
I had one in 2009 broke coronary band 8 weeks before calving as maiden heifer did 8 lactation’s.
Did have a couple of rest spells on straw when she had a issue but well worth doing.
I’ve got one due 6th of June with toe necrosis. She had Micotil injection last year at drying off and trim from vets but after persistent trying I can’t rid it. She’s done 10400l and got incalf quick. Got to be worth a try?
I did 2 on the same day 4 years ago. One went in the barrens at the end of her lactation but was never really good. I still have the other one. Just carefully do the modelling on the remaining claw 2 or 3 time during the lactation. You cannot afford to get an ulcer on that claw. It is a gamble. If she is a good barren I'd be inclined to get rid.
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
mixed results, we did a rear on a 7th calver last year, hoping to get the calf, and barren the cow, she calved, got back i/c, and you wouldn't have a clue she is missing the claw. We spent a lot of time on the claw, trimming, bandage block, a/bs, etc, thought we had cured it, then blew up again, vet took claw off, not optimistic, and we dried cow off 3 weeks early, there was a massive improvement as soon as claw off, longer dry period helped ?, but she never looked back, she calved 31 may last year, due 2 may this year, says it all.
Never done that many, and the rest were not like above, but perhaps an 'earlier' decision might help, before the damage is to great. Would do another, quicker now.
 

Gulli

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Anyone have success with taking toes off??
I had one in 2009 broke coronary band 8 weeks before calving as maiden heifer did 8 lactation’s.
Did have a couple of rest spells on straw when she had a issue but well worth doing.
I’ve got one due 6th of June with toe necrosis. She had Micotil injection last year at drying off and trim from vets but after persistent trying I can’t rid it. She’s done 10400l and got incalf quick. Got to be worth a try?
It's a gamble, we used to deal with a lot of these when I was working for a trimmer. Pared the affected claw right back, topical a/bs and copper sulphate paste, bandaged it up and then had another go at it a week later, with bandages replaced every couple of days, most of them came right after a couple of goes at it.

I don't know what the actual recommended advice is now but taking the claw off should be a last resort, unless she's going to be culled at the end of lactation
 

New2itall

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this is the hoof I had mentioned last night. She not sore on the sole but very painful in between and can hardly walk [emoji849]
Vet has changed antibiotic to zeleris, anyone experience with it?
 

crashbox

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Livestock Farmer
Not having a good run of wooden cow blocks staying on at present, should I change to gun and cartridge. Powder, and the solution used to make the glue, doesn't seem as potent somehow
WOPA glue seems good.
Obvious need fresh mixer nozzle every time, and 5 mins to let set.
 

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