Fencing staple gun

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Used to use all 40mm's but gone up to 50mm's now. Just for better holding especially on barb or single strand fences. No one has got time to knock the odd staple in if one has come out so why not try to stop them coming out to begin with.

Had Contractors here to put up a 4 strand of barb fence against a water course last Winter for Severn Trent.

Crap job that I would have been ashamed of to be honest*, slack wires, shoddy stays and strainers supplied that were a foot too short and too small diameter (I provided better ones!) What I am now seeing is that 6 months later, the staples put in with a staple gun, are coming out all over the place as the posts dry out...

I must see what length they were, but it looked about 25mm.... Chicken wire staples... :mad: From what you say, I might get them back....


Stupid thing is I provided a price using a Contractor I trust that was 40% less, but neither he nor I are "approved contractors", so no job! :banghead:
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
The depth the staples get driven to is adjustable - at least on ours it is. Actually we find there is less pinching of the wire with the staple gun than we used to get with men and hammers doing the job.

That is assuming there is any incentive or desire to adjust it as 'it won't be me who has to take them out'.

On a related thought is it just me getting old or are more contractors/tradesmen just not willing to take a bit of extra care, get off a tractor seat to pick up a large stone, throw their rubbish out in my silage field then deny it, not finish the dyking we agreed or leave ruts in a reseeded field? Just had a run of things where I seem to be moaning about details usually after they have gone but don't expect to be standing next to them always checking up because that is why I contract out the work - skills, time or machinery I don't have...but I cover the costs or have to fix them.
 

RushesToo

Member
Location
Fingringhoe
That is assuming there is any incentive or desire to adjust it as 'it won't be me who has to take them out'.

On a related thought is it just me getting old or are more contractors/tradesmen just not willing to take a bit of extra care, get off a tractor seat to pick up a large stone, throw their rubbish out in my silage field then deny it, not finish the dyking we agreed or leave ruts in a reseeded field? Just had a run of things where I seem to be moaning about details usually after they have gone but don't expect to be standing next to them always checking up because that is why I contract out the work - skills, time or machinery I don't have...but I cover the costs or have to fix them.
@puppet don't stop complaining, attention to detail is the difference between profit and loss.
 

Chris F

Staff Member
Media
Location
Hammerwich
That is assuming there is any incentive or desire to adjust it as 'it won't be me who has to take them out'.

On a related thought is it just me getting old or are more contractors/tradesmen just not willing to take a bit of extra care, get off a tractor seat to pick up a large stone, throw their rubbish out in my silage field then deny it, not finish the dyking we agreed or leave ruts in a reseeded field? Just had a run of things where I seem to be moaning about details usually after they have gone but don't expect to be standing next to them always checking up because that is why I contract out the work - skills, time or machinery I don't have...but I cover the costs or have to fix them.

That seem to describe most jobs done on fram, why did he use so much concrete/sand/cement/etc etc The guy who ownded my farm before me loved 3 inch nails. Must of had a job lot of them. Whatever the job, a 3 inch nail was used.

Anyway - we sell a lot of these staplers on Farm Marketplace, so I guess they are good. Quite a few gone out to NI - which complicates sending the gas seperately.
 
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steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
That is assuming there is any incentive or desire to adjust it as 'it won't be me who has to take them out'.

On a related thought is it just me getting old or are more contractors/tradesmen just not willing to take a bit of extra care, get off a tractor seat to pick up a large stone, throw their rubbish out in my silage field then deny it, not finish the dyking we agreed or leave ruts in a reseeded field? Just had a run of things where I seem to be moaning about details usually after they have gone but don't expect to be standing next to them always checking up because that is why I contract out the work - skills, time or machinery I don't have...but I cover the costs or have to fix them.

You are not alone. I am happy with the work done by my Ag contractors, but some of the drivers who work for the guy contract farming the arable here leave a bit to be desired at times... Lazy hedge cutters can be a tad annoying :rolleyes:

Rubbish left after lunch annoys me, but nothing as bad as a few years ago when we found the spud contractors who were renting some land off my SO had dropped the oil and changed filters on 2-3 tractors... straight onto the ground, filters into the hedge bottom. It wasn't for me to say anything, but if it was my land I would have hit the roof... It's just a crap attitude so often seen in the rush, rush world
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
You are not alone.

Rubbish left after lunch annoys me, but nothing as bad as a few years ago when we found the spud contractors who were renting some land off my SO had dropped the oil and changed filters on 2-3 tractors... straight onto the ground, filters into the hedge bottom. It wasn't for me to say anything, but if it was my land I would have hit the roof... It's just a crap attitude so often seen in the rush, rush world
I had one who threw the old filters into the midden - guess where they were going to end up in the guts of the chopper 6 months later. Luckily I saw them but last service he did
 

S J H

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
We are currently taking down temporary fencing all done with guns and everyone using one should have to try removing them first.
Small staples in to the hilt:mad:
You couldn't tell the difference between a standard 40mm staple and a gun staple. They're pretty much the same except a slightly different shape in the curve, the depth limit is pretty spot on, better than someone getting tired with a hammer.
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
You couldn't tell the difference between a standard 40mm staple and a gun staple. They're pretty much the same except a slightly different shape in the curve, the depth limit is pretty spot on, better than someone getting tired with a hammer.

The depth limit here is tight to the wire or embedded in the post. Some need wire cutters to simply open them up.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
That is assuming there is any incentive or desire to adjust it as 'it won't be me who has to take them out'.

On a related thought is it just me getting old or are more contractors/tradesmen just not willing to take a bit of extra care, get off a tractor seat to pick up a large stone, throw their rubbish out in my silage field then deny it, not finish the dyking we agreed or leave ruts in a reseeded field? Just had a run of things where I seem to be moaning about details usually after they have gone but don't expect to be standing next to them always checking up because that is why I contract out the work - skills, time or machinery I don't have...but I cover the costs or have to fix them.
Using contractors is cheapskating, you get what u pay for.
 

Cheesehead

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Kent
Had Contractors here to put up a 4 strand of barb fence against a water course last Winter for Severn Trent.

Crap job that I would have been ashamed of to be honest*, slack wires, shoddy stays and strainers supplied that were a foot too short and too small diameter (I provided better ones!) What I am now seeing is that 6 months later, the staples put in with a staple gun, are coming out all over the place as the posts dry out...

I must see what length they were, but it looked about 25mm.... Chicken wire staples... :mad: From what you say, I might get them back....


Stupid thing is I provided a price using a Contractor I trust that was 40% less, but neither he nor I are "approved contractors", so no job! :banghead:
What do you expect from a water company and their contractors they give the manager in charge a kickback get a load of jobs from it, over charge and use cheap quality tat which fails after five seconds one of the locals has been booked solid clearing up after their mess.

It is the same with electricity companies, they replaced the wires and poles, UK Power Networks rather than doing it themselves contacted the job out so it freed up their people for other jobs except it did as they took twice as long as they were meant to, all over budget and did such a poor job that there own guy were spending all their time putting it all right but their bosses didn't care as they believed they were saving money or more likely someone made some money off it and the brass are too out of touch to care and will likely just up their charges which we end up paying.
 

Willie adie

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
Ive a friend works for scottish water.
To get to quote to fence round water works sites it cost £600 For the privilege to quote and then a " good friend" of the decision maker gets the work every time.
And the unsuccessful ones dont get thier £600 back
 

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