Fencing tips and tricks

[Chris123]

Didnt think it would work myself till tried it

 

[JohnGalway]

JCB with pecker is handy if trying to fence on solid rock. Peck the hole and tap the post into it.

That sounds familiar....

 

[JohnGalway]

Think I'd be more tempted to use kiwi style multi strand with wide spaces or even electric fencing in those circumstances

I must admit I've been looking at the multi strand fencing since seeing the videos posted on this thread. I'm tempted to try it.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Nice bit of reading here from Fencing Contractors Association NZ

The problem I have with some of their techniques is I have only a few inches of depth in a lot of places before I hit bedrock, which isn't ideal for all of the digging and footing they talk about.

How about digging some really good holes for the strainers then at each corner and strain really well and then just use metal galv posts just to hold the wire up. If you can't get an intermediate post in properly then you sort of wasting your money using them imv.

 

[d.iainm]

Anyone got any ideas on the best way to make a fence stock proof at the sea shore. fencing around the whole seashore is not an option. at the moment we have metal posts drilled into rocks, going into the sea as far as you can get. forever getting wrecked in bad weather seaweed gathers on it and rots it. was thinking of trying to make some sort of pontoon that will rise and fall with the tide. just wondering in anyone on here has a better idea.

 

[kboc]

I must admit I've been looking at the multi strand fencing since seeing the videos posted on this thread. I'm tempted to try it.

why do the farmers in NZ not use barbed wire for fencing?

 

[JohnGalway]

Anyone got any ideas on the best way to make a fence stock proof at the sea shore. fencing around the whole seashore is not an option. at the moment we have metal posts drilled into rocks, going into the sea as far as you can get. forever getting wrecked in bad weather seaweed gathers on it and rots it. was thinking of trying to make some sort of pontoon that will rise and fall with the tide. just wondering in anyone on here has a better idea.

We've always used stakes in concrete and sheep net, but yeah, it can and does get wrecked.

Thought, sensible or not, struck me earlier. What's that steel called that goes into house foundations? Like a mesh. Could you cut and use that? Wire tie it to your existing metal posts. Build walls under uneven bits? Cement the stones together if it's a rough spot.

Yes, a lot of work, has to be formidable faced with the power of the sea.

I reckon your pontoon would break even easier than what you use now.

 

[d.iainm]

We've always used stakes in concrete and sheep net, but yeah, it can and does get wrecked.

Thought, sensible or not, struck me earlier. What's that steel called that goes into house foundations? Like a mesh. Could you cut and use that? Wire tie it to your existing metal posts. Build walls under uneven bits? Cement the stones together if it's a rough spot.

Yes, a lot of work, has to be formidable faced with the power of the sea.

I reckon your pontoon would break even easier than what you use now.

yeah maybe there just no easy way around it. the pontoons I was thinking about are parts of an old fishfarm cage so if anchored at either end i think it could stand up to the weather but I wont know till i try.

maybe its just a case of having to replace a stretch of fence every year or so.

 

[Rob Graham]

Anyone reckon this is worth the money (£30 approx)

 

[DrDunc]

Anyone reckon this is worth the money (£30 approx)

Aye they're useful. When you pull up the net (with a proper clamp and chain puller, really tight) they're useful to pull the short length of wire from the clamp to the strainer post.

You can't use them to get longer runs tight.

The draper one in your link is ok, but it has a sharp edge that nips the wire, abs damages the galvanised surface. A better cam type design is this one imo.

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/vi...0839005843&index=0&nav=SEARCH&nid=56242730606

 

[Rob Graham]

Aye they're useful. When you pull up the net (with a proper clamp and chain puller, really tight) they're useful to pull the short length of wire from the clamp to the strainer post.

You can't use them to get longer runs tight.

The draper one in your link is ok, but it has a sharp edge that nips the wire, abs damages the galvanised surface. A better cam type design is this one imo.

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/vi...0839005843&index=0&nav=SEARCH&nid=56242730606

Cheers Dr Dunc, and good observation on the edges. I have a proper net-clamp here (the nuts will need a little freeing!) and chains but how is it normally setup?? I expect to chain it to the mini-digger to create the tension and nip-up with the tool above

 

[DrDunc]

Here's how the "professionals" strain net. The most important thing is to put your strainers in and brace them properly braced first (see my post near the start of this thread).

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=SEAyhEmWMLg&desktop_uri=/watch?v=SEAyhEmWMLg

What I do is use one chain and monkey from the middle of the strainer, to the middle of the boundary net clamp. Pull the net, walk the length and shake the net, pull it again, check it's tight, and it pull it again.....

I then use the lever cam puller thing to strain the net back to the strainer post. Staple it tight, then tie the net round the post. Then release the clamp strainer. The net won't move.

Using a digger/tractor/bike/forklift etc to pull the chain on the net clamp is not a good idea imo. You can't adjust the tension properly, or get it properly tight. A proper chain and monkey is only £100. It'll pay for itself on the first fence.

 

[Blue.]

I bought a set of Hayes tensioners from rappa a few years ago they were £45 on offer,my dad has a set he bought when I was a nipper,they are the best in my opinion just don't lend them out.

 

[DrDunc]

I bought a set of Hayes tensioners from rappa a few years ago they were £45 on offer,my dad has a set he bought when I was a nipper,they are the best in my opinion just don't lend them out.

+1 for Hayes Kit. It's so good that if looked after it can be inherited

That reminds me of a trick, but you need two sets of pullers:

When pulling up plain wire or barb, you often run out of chain. You're then trying to hold the wire tight and reposition the puller.....

Instead just put the second puller onto the end of the chain without removing the first puller from the wire. Then connect the second puller to the wire, and start tightening

 

[JohnGalway]

Tornado trying to sell lots of unnecessary stuff in this clip, but there are some good bits.

 

[Nearly]

+1 for Hayes Kit. It's so good that if looked after it can be inherited

That reminds me of a trick, but you need two sets of pullers:

When pulling up plain wire or barb, you often run out of chain. You're then trying to hold the wire tight and reposition the puller.....

Instead just put the second puller onto the end of the chain without removing the first puller from the wire. Then connect the second puller to the wire, and start tightening

or buy 10m of chain for tensioning longer runs

 

[Inky]

Anyone reckon this is worth the money (£30 approx)

Defo worth the money, better than the chain pullers for small runs and handy for repairs. the contracting side of our farm uses a unimog with post knocker one end and quick fencer on the front that can take 2 x 500m rolls of stock netting.

If we have public pathways along our fences we alway put a strand of plain wire at the top on the other side to stop people falling on the barb wire.

 

[nacnud]

I've found that often if you concrete in your strainers they rot twice as quick as the water will drip down the Inside and have nowhere to go.

A handy thing I've found, when twisting plain wire round itself after tying round a strainer use either a small spanner or something with a hole in it, put the end of the wire through the hole and use the spanner to wind it round neatly.

 

[neilo]

I've found that often if you concrete in your strainers they rot twice as quick as the water will drip down the Inside and have nowhere to go.

A handy thing I've found, when twisting plain wire round itself after tying round a strainer use either a small spanner or something with a hole in it, put the end of the wire through the hole and use the spanner to wind it round neatly.

Agreed. I have an old bolt with a small hole drilled in it for just that. Too tight to buy a 'wire twister'.

I was always led to believe the comment about concreting round posts too.

 

[Thick Farmer]

Agreed. I have an old bolt with a small hole drilled in it for just that. Too tight to buy a 'wire twister'.

I was always led to believe the comment about concreting round posts too.

I agree with the bolt/spanner tip.

As for concreting in posts. A wet mix will make them rot. A dry mix won't. Reason being that water can run through cracks in the mix.