Dismiss Notice
Direct Driller Magazine Issue 4 is now available to read online

click here to read...

Direct Driller

fert on w crops

Discussion in 'Cropping' started by jpd, Jan 4, 2019.

  1. David.

    David. Member

    Location:
    J11 M40
    I meant that I think it is less mobile than some people credit. It cannot be available for the crop until washed into the soil, which probably needs the first 1/2 inch of rain to achieve, the next inch will not cause any problems, particularly from the dry position we are now in. It will probably then dry up again mid March for a month, if it rains again then, I shall put a second dose on. I cannot see an early application being too wrong, I have regretted not getting it on far more often than having done it.
     
    ollie989898 likes this.
  2. 4course

    4course Member

    Location:
    north yorks
    I agree, you can never win playing catch up , not applying some N early is in a dry time going to cost more in output than waiting and getting delayed with wet and untravelable land. We will be looking to go early feb with a bit if still dryish and no snow ,also watch the snowdrops and daffs as indicators of soil temp and growth
     
  3. If you know you have soils that do not dish up a lot of N in Feb as they warm, and you have crops that don't look hugely forward, then a go with some urea is fine, although I got caught once with the stuff, applied it to a backward crop and the weather turned very very cool for a long time, crop looked sick whilst anything that had a sniff of AN started moving.

    With liquid fertiliser I think you are short-cutting the process of getting it into the plant by some margin.
     
    principal skinner and Andrew K like this.
  4. Warp Land Farmer

    Location:
    Hazzard County
    No sooner than Valentine’s Day for the 1st pass on OSR then end of the month for the 2nd whets, 1st wheats look too proud at the moment.
     
    czechmate and richard hammond like this.
  5. You old romantic,,
     
    ollie989898 likes this.
  6. We had Daffs showing 2 weeks before Christmas!
     
  7. Warp Land Farmer

    Location:
    Hazzard County
    It’s for her own good Richard, she’s only human you know....
     
    richard hammond likes this.
  8. 4course

    4course Member

    Location:
    north yorks
    in that case get on next 10 days so long as you can see buds not just leaf
     
  9. Nooooo! I will be using a bit of common sense, nature does occasionally get it wrong after all it is biology not a fortune teller!!
    (did you mention buds previous?)
     
    ollie989898 likes this.
  10. 4course

    4course Member

    Location:
    north yorks
    common sense is follow nature , I will follow nature as grandad told me years ago and im still here, just my view and as always each to their own. If I can see daff buds we will go if we can travel without making a mark as wouldnt want flowers before first app
     
  11. silverfox

    silverfox Member

    When you say, you got caught etc , do you mean your advice as an agronomist . Do many people use an agronomist for fertiliser decisions , as I find that very strange .
    I would rather make my own decisions on fertiliser .
     
    Shutesy likes this.
  12. The poster on this forum who’s opinion I rated highest (although I thought this one example a bit mad) was elmsted, who used to write of spreading urea on the snow!
     
    ollie989898 likes this.
  13. 4course

    4course Member

    Location:
    north yorks
    ah those where the days, pub yield of 4t/ ac realisticically 3-1/2 norman and huntsman, now you would be shot for applying n on snow and that would be after a dollop at sowing
     
    ollie989898 and silverfox like this.
  14. AN would be a problem
    Although we did put it on in late January rape then second wheats and barley first wheats often had no early n but first wheats had lashings of muck

    If it stays dry then we will be putting some n on wheat under notill in february
     
  15. Andrew K

    Andrew K Member

    Location:
    Essex
    Facts needed maybe for ACCS?
     
    silverfox likes this.

Share This Page