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farmerfred86

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BASIS
Location
Suffolk
There's the wheat price to N price ratio quoted in RB209 that has an impact on optimum N rates.
Its too simplistic though isn't it? Just because the wheat price rises doesn't mean we can justify increasing N use. What I really want is a tool showing the value of 1kg of N in yield. There must be a calculator?
 

goodevans

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Its too simplistic though isn't it? Just because the wheat price rises doesn't mean we can justify increasing N use. What I really want is a tool showing the value of 1kg of N in yield. There must be a calculator?
To arrive at that you would need to take soil samples first as some fields require 100kg and some require 200kgs to arrive at the same yield and l8kewise some land is capable of 12 tons /ha and some only 8
 

B'o'B

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Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
Its too simplistic though isn't it? Just because the wheat price rises doesn't mean we can justify increasing N use. What I really want is a tool showing the value of 1kg of N in yield. There must be a calculator?
And which kg are you looking at? Yield response from 0-50kg/Ha is very different to the yield responses for 200-250kg/Ha.
 

farmerfred86

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BASIS
Location
Suffolk
To arrive at that you would need to take soil samples first as some fields require 100kg and some require 200kgs to arrive at the same yield and l8kewise some land is capable of 12 tons /ha and some only 8
Yes that's true but there must be a given figure (in a controlled trials environment) where 1 Unit/KG of N is equal to a yield figure? That figure then has to be better than the margin/wheat price until the crops yield tapers off or falls over?
 

Donkey Oaty

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
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This is the graph for Natural gas. It's why Nitrogen is going up.............
 

B'o'B

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
Yes that's true but there must be a given figure (in a controlled trials environment) where 1 Unit/KG of N is equal to a yield figure? That figure then has to be better than the margin/wheat price until the crops yield tapers off or falls over?
This is the whole basis of RB209, which is surprisingly accurate as an average, however the average does mask some pretty big inter-farm variations.
The next problem is nobody knows what the yield will actually be until the crop has been harvested and by then it is way way too late to do anything about adjusting fertilizer rates.
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
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This is the graph for Natural gas. It's why Nitrogen is going up.............
Spoke to a couple of merchants yesterday. N fert prices have plateaued due to farmers "being busy with harvest", and no one is sure where it will go. They are very reluctant to bring in Urea boats, because if they 'buy at a historic price high' and the price falls while it's at sea then they will be left with a potentially huge loss.
So where does this leave Urea price and availability for the coming season?
It's kind of hard to see this story having a happy ending before February the 15th.
 

Donkey Oaty

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
Spoke to a couple of merchants yesterday. N fert prices have plateaued due to farmers "being busy with harvest", and no one is sure where it will go. They are very reluctant to bring in Urea boats, because if they 'buy at a historic price high' and the price falls while it's at sea then they will be left with a potentially huge loss.
So where does this leave Urea price and availability for the coming season?
It's kind of hard to see this story having a happy ending before February the 15th.
I bought N for next year at £324. I don't see it getting cheaper and it could get alot dearer by springtime. Job done and i'll live with it.
 

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