Fertiliser Price Tracker

farmerm

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Location
Shropshire
25-5-5 with sulphur 418£, good buy?? Me and dad are worried we won’t be able to get our hands on fert in a few months! Don’t know if we are over reacting, what’s people’s thoughts on here
Its a terrible buy.. what options have you... buy fert or cut stock? In spring it might be £300 or it might be £600 or it might simply not exist, we are in unprecedented times. Which is going to sit better with you, potentially paying £200/t too much, either now or later, or ending up with having none at all?. Perhaps you split you chips 50:50 Welcome aboard the new casino commodities roller coaster we are now all riding....
 

supercow

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Location
Dumfriesshire
Its a terrible buy.. what options have you... buy fert or cut stock? In spring it might be £300 or it might be £600 or it might simply not exist, we are in unprecedented times. Which is going to sit better with you, potentially paying £200/t too much, either now or later, or ending up with having none at all?. Perhaps you split you chips 50:50 Welcome aboard the new casino commodities roller coaster we are now all riding....
The way I see it is as long as inputs stay high milk price will stay high, if not it won’t be just us that will struggle. So as long as milk price is good I’m happy to have this safe bet. 234£ is what we paid last year, but we are 4 pence a litre more than this time last year. It’s a risk we aren’t willing to take, either it continues to increase/or not get any atol.
 

supercow

Member
Location
Dumfriesshire
It might be a terrible buy. Time will tell. This time of year is normally the cheapest, until people start buying from October November onwards so I can’t exactly see demand dropping, and it doesn’t look as if supply is going to go through the roof either
 

CORK

Member
This has nothing to do with panic buying.
You need a bit of luck at times but credit to contributors like @crazy_bull @Eartha Kitt and others .
They were highlighting the price rises in early spring.

I normally buy now for next year, on average it has worked out better than waiting till spring.
I usually watch N as a barometer of prices, P & K less so. I’ve recorded our purchase prices going back over 10yrs. The cheapest we bought CAN was €195 and the dearest was €312 over that time.
My view developed over the years was that if CAN is below €250 then it’s probably not bad value.
We bought at €200 in August 20.
It was €225 in Jan 21 and plenty of indication of rising.
Therefore I bought the full 22 fert requirement of N, P & K in Jan 21. A few months credit and delivery in late summer.
To keep the taxman right, I’d be buying some time in 21 anyway so it was just 6-7 months early.

You make a decision and take your chances but access to good information is very valuable.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
You need a bit of luck at times but credit to contributors like @crazy_bull @Eartha Kitt and others .
They were highlighting the price rises in early spring.

I normally buy now for next year, on average it has worked out better than waiting till spring.
I usually watch N as a barometer of prices, P & K less so. I’ve recorded our purchase prices going back over 10yrs. The cheapest we bought CAN was €195 and the dearest was €312 over that time.
My view developed over the years was that if CAN is below €250 then it’s probably not bad value.
We bought at €200 in August 20.
It was €225 in Jan 21 and plenty of indication of rising.
Therefore I bought the full 22 fert requirement of N, P & K in Jan 21. A few months credit and delivery in late summer.
To keep the taxman right, I’d be buying some time in 21 anyway so it was just 6-7 months early.

You make a decision and take your chances but access to good information is very valuable.

Well done! You did well there.
 

CPF

Member
Arable Farmer
Didn’t no any of you knew that China has bad fertiliser export and the world is starting to worry it’s on the news I just clicked this and posted it
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Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Surely all this restriction of fert to crops is going to drop world wheat output leading to a spike in prices?
Eventually, yes. There will be a time lag. High grain prices do lead to some reduction in demand. I’ve never quite worked out why, other than some countries running strategic stocks down.
 

supercow

Member
Location
Dumfriesshire
Thanks, this fert polava increase is new to us, been that busy building the new shed and everything else not taken much notice, until we seen the price go through the roof and with what the analysts are saying. That’s why I came on here to see what u guys are saying about it. On here I think everyone’s hoping for a miracle in the spring for some reason when historically that’s when it’s most expensive!
That's not a risk I'd fancy taking. I think your thoughts in the posts above are wise.
 

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