Fertiliser Price Tracker

jg123

Member
surly if we don't use fertiliser the carbon footprint of the food will be higher as there is less yield to water down the fixed carbon costs (establishment , seed production, chems, harvest) but it wouldn't surprise me if they weren't looking at the bigger picture. food comes from the supermarket after all.
Correct but thats far too sensible for government policy to consider
 
Putins agreed to turn up the gas supply so fert might start to go the other way. Folks panic buying fert and price talking are worse than the bogroll hoarders from last year!
I'm not sure people are panic buying. The UK fert demand is still way behind where it would be normally, and with a haulage problem looming on deliveries, having product is probably fairly sensible.
 

David.

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
Theres a difference between panic buying and having a safety net. As you said less N might mean higher prices, be annoying to have your worst ever yields during the best ever prices. If it was a uk issue I think it would all blow over but it seems a world shortage and Gov are not going to help
You will not have your worst year ever by applying 70% of normal N.
Worst year evers come from lush 5ton/ac looking crops that don't get any sunshine to fill them, or from wet 6 weeks prior to harvest and late disease and sprouting. Both these scenarios would be improved by having not applied 250kgN
 

EddieB

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Staffs
Looking at what I have in stock I have enough to put an average of 160 kg/ha across the farm. I think I can live with that on my light land. I use 175 kg/ha on my wheat and OSR, 150 on winter barley, 120 on spring barley and only 100 on linseed.
If I was waiting until spring to buy it all then getting physical stock onto farm on time would be my primary concern.
 

willy

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Rutland
It makes you wonder about the future usage, going forward a year, is this the new norm? If it is UK AG will be changing ways in which we farm.

Plant health has been neglected since artificial bagged n has been so cheap relative. Exciting times ahead
 

crazy_bull

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Huntingdon
Why is everyone so silly . No one ring up even for a price ignore fert reps they would soon get the message . But oh no let’s all ring up cuz u all got nowt better to do .

sorry but as I keep saying it’s being driven by influences outside of the UK. You could all not buy until the spring and the market will have done it’s own thing up up then up up up again.

look beyond our shores, just like the grain.
C B
 

balerman

Member
Location
N Devon
Why is everyone so silly . No one ring up even for a price ignore fert reps they would soon get the message . But oh no let’s all ring up cuz u all got nowt better to do .
No one is being silly,if you need it on farm for feb/March you don’t really have any option but buy some now to ensure supply.This is a worldwide problem caused by the restart after COVID,AN isn’t being made in normal amounts anywhere much so supply is certain to be lower than normal.It’s a good time to learn how to farm with less tho.
 

crazy_bull

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Huntingdon
Makes me confused.com why CF are singled out as the devil for stopping producing when as far as I’m aware every other manufacturer in Europe has shut some of their plants or all.

certainly does none of them any good to not be producing tonnes to sell.

no different to people fallowing land, it’s a business decision based on input costs. Should those who fallow land instead of producing food to sell at what ever the prevailing price is be vilified? Or should business decisions be made to support ones business?
C B

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I’m sure it will come down at some point in the future, but we have seen calls on this forum and other places since new season terms came out that if people didn’t buy in the UK it would have to collapse. I estimate there is still 40% of the fertiliser to be brought (lower than normal) and yet the price has nearly doubled.
 
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