Fertiliser Price Tracker

[David.]

Even I would be saying "You are still getting 80% BPS, Suck it up matey"

 

[curlietailz]

If you can see a profit, grab it quick .

I did a little bit at £190/Nov last week
I like to sell one or two loads early in the game ... it really concentrates my mind... and hopefully puts a floor base price into the selling strategy.
I can see a small margin at £190

 

[David.]

Well, if that's your worst sale.......

 

[idle git]

Well all my N will be sat in my fert store at £285 but alas 25%of my wheat has gone down the road at £154 per ton, as much as I shudder thinking about my poor grain selling ability I'm still quids in compared to if it was flipped around the other way around

 

[DRC]

Guess everyone's lands different. We are 90% spring barley. If the drill runs dry of fert when sowing barley goes yellow and doesn't yield much.

I wouldn't want all our fields to look like that.

We would have plenty fertility soil sampling always shows high levels of P & K. It just seems to need that quickly available bagged stuff at the start.

Perhaps winter crops require less. Haven't seen any difference in run where I ran out yet.

Have you tried just straight N as it may well be just that part that it misses. I know it’s a Scottish thing to drill fertiliser with the seed, but we grow spring barley down here and never do it. Just N on to the seedbed .

 

[fudge]

I think Willy Ranjit was talking not only of the raw material for his chicken based products (the raw material being chicken) but the additional costs his business faces in labour, packaging, energy etc, etc, So while I understand your sentiment the Gist of 2 sisters comment was related not necessarily to the price of food per se but the overall cost of producing the products and general inflationary pressures - which are outside the BofE 2% guideline and more like 5-10% in the real economy. Interesting times.

No one believes official inflation figures do they?

Devils advocate here! Will it stymie yield in UK? As a rule of thumb (do challenge me) I suggest 80% (could be a little more) of the yield response to applied Nitrogen fertiliser comes from the first 50% of applied Nitrogen. You may want to research the decades of trial results and associated dose response curves.

IMO this is why prices will fall in the spring. Those who have bought their usual tonnage can make it last 2 years. That at least gives considerable time to adjust rotation/ fallowing decisions if prices remain high in this captive market.

 

[Bossfarmer]

A 4% yield drop due to fertiliser issues would be enough. There will be a swing to beans from corn in the Americas, there will be places fertiliser doesn’t get to. China and India have anticipated this, Russia is about to take action.

What action are the going to take?

 

[livestock 1]

 

[Bossfarmer]

Have you tried just straight N as it may well be just that part that it misses. I know it’s a Scottish thing to drill fertiliser with the seed, but we grow spring barley down here and never do it. Just N on to the seedbed .

How much would straight N save per acre as apposed to 13 14 21 down spout? Prob not much

 

[DRC]

How much would straight N save per acre as apposed to 13 14 21 down spout? Prob not much

If your P and k indicis are ok, then quite a lot I’d have though . Don’t just do things out of habit . N is 34.5% so you’d only need less than half the amount per acre to achieve you’re 13%

 

[Jim75]

Have you tried just straight N as it may well be just that part that it misses. I know it’s a Scottish thing to drill fertiliser with the seed, but we grow spring barley down here and never do it. Just N on to the seedbed .

Trials repeatedly show that there’s only one winner in down the spout vs broadcast certainly in our location. Mixed farm with lots of background fertility here. Even with our p and k levels it still needs a boost out of the ground to get going. Won’t be taking a p and k holiday but making far better use of what we do have and tweaking rates. It needs replaced at some point.

 

[Chae1]

Trials repeatedly show that there’s only one winner in down the spout vs broadcast certainly in our location. Mixed farm with lots of background fertility here. Even with our p and k levels it still needs a boost out of the ground to get going. Won’t be taking a p and k holiday but making far better use of what we do have and tweaking rates. It needs replaced at some point.

It would be worth a try with straight N though. I might try a bag through drill.

Remember going to the greens at corskie who have loads of pigs and cattle and soil indices for p&k very high when they were monitor farm. They still advocated putting p&k down spout when drilling.

Heard some farmers in high fertility farms were just going 20.10.10. down the spout.

 

[curlietailz]

Don’t the Regs day you shouldn’t put any fert on if Index’s are above 3 though ?

 

[DRC]

I don’t know anyone down here that even has a drill that applies fertiliser with the seed , apart from maize drills.
everyone will know what works for them .

 

[solo]

I don’t know anyone down here that even has a drill that applies fertiliser with the seed , apart from maize drills.
everyone will know what works for them .

A muzuri near me seems to have two trailers of separate bags going into the drill hoppers, winter or spring crops . . Might be Dap for all I know on p index 4 ground.

 

[Oldmacdonald]

Yeah I completely agree. It's just having the balls to sit tight and wait.

I chickened out last Friday and bought a couple loads of 16.16.16 which was probably at the top of the market. Fudged up again. I wasn't sleeping at nights worrying about it. Now I'm waking up in middle of the night sweating thinking what I paid for it!

It's only money Chae.

 

[bobk]

I don’t know anyone down here that even has a drill that applies fertiliser with the seed , apart from maize drills.
everyone will know what works for them .

I've got one ,

 

[DRC]

I've got one ,

There’s always one . Do you use it ?

 

[bobk]

There’s always one . Do you use it ?

Not for a while , never used it fore fert

 

[Will Blackburn]

What action are the going to take?

Putting as much wheat in as possible, all fert has been purchased and delivered. Only trouble is these messy showers are holding me up.