Fertiliser Price Tracker

[lloyd]

I hope everyone realised what an awful company CF is now and how they have shafted farmers in more ways than one in recent years.
Colluding behind our backs to get urea banned on an old flawed Adas experiment. I was very pee'd off when I heard one of the main people leading the consultation on this with government is a well known ‘independant’ agronomist who just seems to appear in many cf publications and others demonising urea over the years.
I hate how they play on the ‘buy British’ rubbish. Companies like this are a leach.

Why stop at CF? Cargill are estimated to ship more than 100,000 tonnes of soybeans to the UK every year from Brazil's threatened Cerrado Savannah?
What about the friendly (ff)grain trading company which is Cargills main UK supplier that happily imports hundreds of thousands of tonnes of rape in a normal year?Hardly friendly to the UK farmer!

 

[SilliamWhale]

Agree, those old plants days are numbered anyway

Surely we would like to see a UK producing N plant though? I'd have thought it was in our interests?

Why am I coming round to thinking some things should be in public ownership as I get older? Steel? Nitrogen? Trains?

 

[ajd132]

Surely we would like to see a UK producing N plant though? I'd have thought it was in our interests?

Why am I coming round to thinking some things should be in public ownership as I get older? Steel? Nitrogen? Trains?

I’ve been thinking that recently, water as well.

 

[Flat 10]

I’ve been thinking that recently, water as well.

Water is a no brainer imo.

 

[Renaultman]

Surely we would like to see a UK producing N plant though? I'd have thought it was in our interests?

Why am I coming round to thinking some things should be in public ownership as I get older? Steel? Nitrogen? Trains?

I definitely think all utilities should be in public ownership, steel, fert etc should be protected from the boom and bust of the modern world.

 

[J 1177]

Secured mine at 531 per ton eqivelent liquid. Ouch, but better than it has been.

 

[Daniel]

Surely we would like to see a UK producing N plant though? I'd have thought it was in our interests?

Why am I coming round to thinking some things should be in public ownership as I get older? Steel? Nitrogen? Trains?

Is it because with every year that passes, we get further from the memory of how badly nationalised industries were run?

 

[Renaultman]

Is it because with every year that passes, we get further from the memory of how badly nationalised industries were run?

Although no-one can deny it, the one thing that has always annoyed me is the fact that they were reorganised into well run companies before they were sold. Current issues with both water and electric are only going to get worse IMHO as there has only been a patch up investment, since they were sold.

 

[Cowabunga]

Why stop at CF? Cargill are estimated to ship more than 100,000 tonnes of soybeans to the UK every year from Brazil's threatened Cerrado Savannah?
What about the friendly (ff)grain trading company which is Cargills main UK supplier that happily imports hundreds of thousands of tonnes of rape in a normal year?Hardly friendly to the UK farmer!

Cargill are investing massively in alternative proteins to bypass farmers altogether in food production, no matter what their publicity machine claims are its motives.

Protein innovation: Cargill invests in cultured protein | Cargill

www.cargill.com

 

[lloyd]

Cargill are investing massively in alternative proteins to bypass farmers altogether in food production, no matter what their publicity machine claims are its motives.

Protein innovation: Cargill invests in cultured protein | Cargill

www.cargill.com

It's quite frightening what power and influence Cargill has on
farming and food.

 

[teslacoils]

An ace plan would be run the plant into the ground; create a crisis; book a huge impairment charge; then flog the plant to the govt who nationalise an "essential" infrastructure. Trebles all round.

 

[DrWazzock]

It should be nationalisation along the lines of a requisition rather than paying anybody for anything. I’m utterly fed up with rip off merchants who run essential services into the ground profiting from what was left of investment during nationalisation days then disappearing when they’ve run it into the ground.
My father in law presided over digitalisation of BT during the final years of National ownership. It was fattened up for privatisation. Little reinvested since as we bear witness too here in rural areas. Now he says all BT comprises of is a logo on headed paper, everything else having been stripped out, sold off or subcontracted.

 

[DrWazzock]

Same happened with East Coast Mainline. Privatised, bankrupted, renationalised to keep it running, turned it around into profit, privatised it again. WTF.

 

[Renaultman]

Same happened with East Coast Mainline. Privatised, bankrupted, renationalised to keep it running, turned it around into profit, privatised it again. WTF.

It's the water job that really stinks though. Surely investment in infrastructure should have been a prerequisite of the sale?

 

[bobk]

It's the water job that really stinks though. Surely investment in infrastructure should have been a prerequisite of the sale?

The govt sold it off because the infrastruture was totally forked

 

[DrWazzock]

The govt sold it off because the infrastruture was totally forked

Nothings changed then. Our power grid here is just as was when installed in 1960. Want a connection? It’ll cost you eleventy billion pounds. Want solar farm or wind turbine? Sorry the network can’t take the power. Well isn’t it their job to make sure the network can take the power? Seemingly not. It’s their job to replace poles when I ring them to tell them yet another has fallen over, but upgrades? Not a chance. Owned by some American outfit now.

 

[county down]

Why stop at CF? Cargill are estimated to ship more than 100,000 tonnes of soybeans to the UK every year from Brazil's threatened Cerrado Savannah?
What about the friendly (ff)grain trading company which is Cargills main UK supplier that happily imports hundreds of thousands of tonnes of rape in a normal year?Hardly friendly to the UK farmer!

cargill is a commody trader who supply markets they have no interest in farmers just pounds in nortern ireland the present time the ahdb cereals report only gives a price for ukranian grain no price for british grain or northern ireland home grown grain the ukranian grain does nor meet our farm quality spec but the grain trade buys it anyway the whole grain trade has a dinner each year all in bow ties but leaches every one of them

 

[bobk]

cargill is a commody trader who supply markets they have no interest in farmers just pounds in nortern ireland the present time the ahdb cereals report only gives a price for ukranian grain no price for british grain or northern ireland home grown grain the ukranian grain does nor meet our farm quality spec but the grain trade buys it anyway the whole grain trade has a dinner each year all in bow ties but leaches every one of them

Cargill is forking enormous mate , one of the big ones

 

[county down]

Is it because with every year that passes, we get further from the memory of how badly nationalised industries were run?

millions wasted over the years

 

[Nearly]

Billions wasted over the years