Fertiliser Price Tracker



This looks interesting.
Perhaps the government ought to be subsidising these to every farm.
@Janet Hughes Defra
Thanks I hadn't seen that
 

Luke Cropwalker

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PM your email address and I'll see what I can find.
I remember reading the trial results, it was carried out by ADAS, possibly something like NT26 trial? Interesting that googling ADAS and fertiliser trial now just comes up with loads of stuff about current inhibitor work. I am afraid this has led me to question just how independent ADAS are although some of their work is really good.
 

Gong Farmer

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I remember reading the trial results, it was carried out by ADAS, possibly something like NT26 trial? Interesting that googling ADAS and fertiliser trial now just comes up with loads of stuff about current inhibitor work. I am afraid this has led me to question just how independent ADAS are although some of their work is really good.
The NT26 was an empirical ADAS trial trying to investigate extremes. All N was applied in one dose in May and plots covered in plastic to collect any gases emitted. This of course had a greenhouse effect and made sure there were gases emitted. (60% loss from urea, 10% from AN I think). However fertiliser manufacturers have milked this to extremes, not surprisingly.
Anyone who applies all their N in one dose in May and then covers the crop should not use urea, therefore.

(I think Brisel is referring to the NIAB TAG database which gives very different views).

I have also seen signs of ADAS going the way of a lot of science these days, most work funded by manufacturers and you won't get repeat funding if you get the wrong findings.
 

som farmer

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fert is not going down in price, anytime soon. Unless Putin is going to back down, which means he would lose face, which he is not going to like. So NATO and other European countries are moving troops and hardware about. Sweden, the ultra neutral country, has moved it's troops, to re-garrison a strategic island, of its coast, as a direct result of increased soviet interest in it, and would like to join NATO. The danger of things rapidly escalating, are very real. On top of that, China is looking to divert attention away from its rapidly declining economy, and likely to invade Taiwan, if Putin kicks off.

So, all sorts of things will change, even if nothing happens, Germany in particular, relies on energy from Russia, as do many others. They realise that Putin has them firmly grasped, by the short and curlies, they will want to alter that. Alternative sources of energy will need to be found, re-commissioning of coal power stations, is, and will occur. Climate change commitments will not be honoured, they cannot be.

So the unthinkable is now very real, and very close, whether that is by severe sanctions against Russia, or military action, the results will be the same, massive disruption of 'normal' trade routes, already severely compromised by covid. We are certainly going to have a roller coaster year ahead, which will alter food trade routes, ironically in our favour.
 
fert is not going down in price, anytime soon. Unless Putin is going to back down, which means he would lose face, which he is not going to like. So NATO and other European countries are moving troops and hardware about. Sweden, the ultra neutral country, has moved it's troops, to re-garrison a strategic island, of its coast, as a direct result of increased soviet interest in it, and would like to join NATO. The danger of things rapidly escalating, are very real. On top of that, China is looking to divert attention away from its rapidly declining economy, and likely to invade Taiwan, if Putin kicks off.

So, all sorts of things will change, even if nothing happens, Germany in particular, relies on energy from Russia, as do many others. They realise that Putin has them firmly grasped, by the short and curlies, they will want to alter that. Alternative sources of energy will need to be found, re-commissioning of coal power stations, is, and will occur. Climate change commitments will not be honoured, they cannot be.

So the unthinkable is now very real, and very close, whether that is by severe sanctions against Russia, or military action, the results will be the same, massive disruption of 'normal' trade routes, already severely compromised by covid. We are certainly going to have a roller coaster year ahead, which will alter food trade routes, ironically in our favour.
Im hearing eastern europe/ukraine etc have had a very mild winter with very little frost damage and huge potential crops, anyone else heard this?
 

som farmer

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somerset
Long time for prices to drift downward, the concern is paying 600 for fert then getting 150 for wheat at harvest, quite likely now the recent rises are short term supply issues and russia, huge crops from ukraine and russia will ruin the fun
short term wheat, looks plentiful, and prices have eased, traders are thinking going forward, wheat will not be short.
They don't seem to realise the political uncertainty, or the affect of fert price, if Putin kicks off, wheat from Russia and Ukraine, is not going to appear, that will have a rather large effect on wheat price, perhaps not the season to sell much forward ?.
 

Lincsman

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Lincolnshire
short term wheat, looks plentiful, and prices have eased, traders are thinking going forward, wheat will not be short.
They don't seem to realise the political uncertainty, or the affect of fert price, if Putin kicks off, wheat from Russia and Ukraine, is not going to appear, that will have a rather large effect on wheat price, perhaps not the season to sell much forward ?.
Prices eased?... Frontier text show a jump of £7 yesterday from Monday for FW and £9 for Milling wheat.
 

teslacoils

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Lincolnshire
Perhaps about to hand CF shareholders another quarterly dividend.....I mean incentivise production of a critical industrial input.

Previous bung to produce window for other supplies has seemingly produced nothing. I think back to the last UK gas crisis when they resided there was only three days natural gas storage in the UK and the report suggested building more. I'm led to believe current UK natural gas storage capacity is ....three days.

In Germany it's three months ....shame 1/4 of that storage is owned by Gazprom and 1/2 of it is empty.
 

Bramble

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Long time for prices to drift downward, the concern is paying 600 for fert then getting 150 for wheat at harvest, quite likely now the recent rises are short term supply issues and russia, huge crops from ukraine and russia will ruin the fun
Sell a % forward if you’re worried about prices going down
 

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