Thanks, thought I had something wrong!
Fertiliser Price Tracker
- Thread starter TFF
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- Suffolk
Are there any Fert calculator tools (AHDB?) for MOIC and yield? Im guessing that the proposed new season prices won't be justified in margin?
There's the wheat price to N price ratio quoted in RB209 that has an impact on optimum N rates.
5:1 so for wheat at £175/t 5:1 ratio AN should be £301/T if AN reaches £345/T the recommendation is to reduce N applications by 10kgN/Ha
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- Suffolk
Its too simplistic though isn't it? Just because the wheat price rises doesn't mean we can justify increasing N use. What I really want is a tool showing the value of 1kg of N in yield. There must be a calculator?
To arrive at that you would need to take soil samples first as some fields require 100kg and some require 200kgs to arrive at the same yield and l8kewise some land is capable of 12 tons /ha and some only 8
And which kg are you looking at? Yield response from 0-50kg/Ha is very different to the yield responses for 200-250kg/Ha.
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- Suffolk
Yes that's true but there must be a given figure (in a controlled trials environment) where 1 Unit/KG of N is equal to a yield figure? That figure then has to be better than the margin/wheat price until the crops yield tapers off or falls over?
Donkey Oaty
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- Aberdeenshire
This is the graph for Natural gas. It's why Nitrogen is going up.............
This is the whole basis of RB209, which is surprisingly accurate as an average, however the average does mask some pretty big inter-farm variations.
The next problem is nobody knows what the yield will actually be until the crop has been harvested and by then it is way way too late to do anything about adjusting fertilizer rates.
county down
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- downpatrick
14 14 21 good price in todays market
I think you might of got the 14 14 21 price and the pilled N the wrong way round
Spoke to a couple of merchants yesterday. N fert prices have plateaued due to farmers "being busy with harvest", and no one is sure where it will go. They are very reluctant to bring in Urea boats, because if they 'buy at a historic price high' and the price falls while it's at sea then they will be left with a potentially huge loss.
So where does this leave Urea price and availability for the coming season?
It's kind of hard to see this story having a happy ending before February the 15th.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Bit of fertilizing in the evening rain or shine!
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- Lincolnshire
Home saved oats.Bit of fertilizing in the evening rain or shine!
Donkey Oaty
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- Aberdeenshire