Thanks, thought I had something wrong!I to get about £9/t
Thanks, thought I had something wrong!I to get about £9/t
Are there any Fert calculator tools (AHDB?) for MOIC and yield? Im guessing that the proposed new season prices won't be justified in margin?
5:1 so for wheat at £175/t 5:1 ratio AN should be £301/T if AN reaches £345/T the recommendation is to reduce N applications by 10kgN/HaThere's the wheat price to N price ratio quoted in RB209 that has an impact on optimum N rates.
Just been quoted £325 for 14.14.21
And £396 for prilled N !!!!
Thoughts anyone??!!
Its too simplistic though isn't it? Just because the wheat price rises doesn't mean we can justify increasing N use. What I really want is a tool showing the value of 1kg of N in yield. There must be a calculator?There's the wheat price to N price ratio quoted in RB209 that has an impact on optimum N rates.
To arrive at that you would need to take soil samples first as some fields require 100kg and some require 200kgs to arrive at the same yield and l8kewise some land is capable of 12 tons /ha and some only 8Its too simplistic though isn't it? Just because the wheat price rises doesn't mean we can justify increasing N use. What I really want is a tool showing the value of 1kg of N in yield. There must be a calculator?
And which kg are you looking at? Yield response from 0-50kg/Ha is very different to the yield responses for 200-250kg/Ha.Its too simplistic though isn't it? Just because the wheat price rises doesn't mean we can justify increasing N use. What I really want is a tool showing the value of 1kg of N in yield. There must be a calculator?
Yes that's true but there must be a given figure (in a controlled trials environment) where 1 Unit/KG of N is equal to a yield figure? That figure then has to be better than the margin/wheat price until the crops yield tapers off or falls over?To arrive at that you would need to take soil samples first as some fields require 100kg and some require 200kgs to arrive at the same yield and l8kewise some land is capable of 12 tons /ha and some only 8
This is the whole basis of RB209, which is surprisingly accurate as an average, however the average does mask some pretty big inter-farm variations.Yes that's true but there must be a given figure (in a controlled trials environment) where 1 Unit/KG of N is equal to a yield figure? That figure then has to be better than the margin/wheat price until the crops yield tapers off or falls over?
14 14 21 good price in todays marketJust been quoted £325 for 14.14.21
And £396 for prilled N !!!!
Thoughts anyone??!!
I think you might of got the 14 14 21 price and the pilled N the wrong way round14 14 21 good price in todays market
Spoke to a couple of merchants yesterday. N fert prices have plateaued due to farmers "being busy with harvest", and no one is sure where it will go. They are very reluctant to bring in Urea boats, because if they 'buy at a historic price high' and the price falls while it's at sea then they will be left with a potentially huge loss.View attachment 977413
This is the graph for Natural gas. It's why Nitrogen is going up.............
It's kind of hard to see this story having a happy ending before February the 15th.
Bit of fertilizing in the evening rain or shine!I'm kind of looking forward to a "happy ending" on February 14th, tbh.
Home saved oats.Bit of fertilizing in the evening rain or shine!
I bought N for next year at £324. I don't see it getting cheaper and it could get alot dearer by springtime. Job done and i'll live with it.Spoke to a couple of merchants yesterday. N fert prices have plateaued due to farmers "being busy with harvest", and no one is sure where it will go. They are very reluctant to bring in Urea boats, because if they 'buy at a historic price high' and the price falls while it's at sea then they will be left with a potentially huge loss.
So where does this leave Urea price and availability for the coming season?
It's kind of hard to see this story having a happy ending before February the 15th.