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ajd132

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Arable Farmer
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Suffolk
heard my old agronomist has lost 4000 ac crop walking to stewardship options :oops: .......bps loss driven IMO
Wouldn’t surprise me. Got 70ha on one farm going into the yearly stubble option.
Generally though crops pay much more here especially if you are no till and getting decent yields with much lower overheads and maxing out things like the over winter cover crop option and now there is the new carbon markets to watch.
loads of land currently in crops isn’t good enough for growing post subsidy. May well be beneficial for those on stronger land.
 

ajd132

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Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
Although saying that if prices went really low it would be a different story. How much of an affect on domestic prices would a large amount of stewardship have?
 
do you want the country to starve
It’s too late. Tens of thousands of acres going into stewardship and all that will feed is wildlife. Government haven’t worked it out yet but when they do it will be too late. Britain will be more dependent on imports. The green lobby in government has won and the public will have to get used to substandard imports or even empty shelves.
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
FFS just smell the coffee. You won't be using this stuff much longer. The associated emissions are just unacceptable for a country such as the UK.
We are talking about different issues here. There is a website where you can choose price series for anything to show a coincidence or make up any kind of correlation you want. @Guy Smith used it in the past. I’ll show the prices of urea tracking corn futures more closely than natural gas futures if I can find it.

I agree that the government will tax N using the green agenda.
 

county down

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Location
downpatrick
It’s too late. Tens of thousands of acres going into stewardship and all that will feed is wildlife. Government haven’t worked it out yet but when they do it will be too late. Britain will be more dependent on imports. The green lobby in government has won and the public will have to get used to substandard imports or even empty shelves.
 

fudge

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire.
We are talking about different issues here. There is a website where you can choose price series for anything to show a coincidence or make up any kind of correlation you want. @Guy Smith used it in the past. I’ll show the prices of urea tracking corn futures more closely than natural gas futures if I can find it.

I agree that the government will tax N using the green agenda.
It will be interesting to see if the UK fertilizer market continues to track the global price of urea in the medium term let alone other commodities.
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
It will be interesting to see if the UK fertilizer market continues to track the global price of urea in the medium term let alone other commodities.
I get where you’re coming from now 👍

The lobbying by CF and Yara (both major global urea producers) against urea so it is penalised in favour of domestic AN will boost their margins. All in the name of reducing ammonia emissions 👎

They will still have to fight against the nitrate pollution though.
 

fudge

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire.
I get where you’re coming from now 👍

The lobbying by CF and Yara (both major global urea producers) against urea so it is penalised in favour of domestic AN will boost their margins. All in the name of reducing ammonia emissions 👎

They will still have to fight against the nitrate pollution though.
Er in the name of their profits within an over regulated captive market some might argue. In fairness to CF they are playing lip service to increasing N efficiency, something the whole industry needs to take seriously.
 
Now heading into winter, it already looks highly likely that energy supply and prices will continue to spike as they are currently doing and as a UK manufacturer, CF may find their energy / gas feedstock suppliers invoke the standard Industry contractual term on large industrial consumers so their supply is reduced or even drastically cut to ensure power/gas for UK households are maintained- This will undoubted affect production volumes at both CF's Billingham and Ince facilities and lead to demand/supply price rises well into the spring.
 

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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