Fertiliser Price Tracker

[bobk]

Took no chances here , ordered fert and stocked up with beer .

 

[bankrupt]

Hugely serious situation.

A perfect storm.

In fact, the 70s second coming.

Energy outages > price inflation > wage inflation > BoE caught short > IR increases > capital depreciation > land prices collapse > idiot buyers taking up the slack . . . .

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[bobk]

A perfect storm.

In fact, the 70s second coming.

Energy outages > price inflation > wage inflation > BoE caught short > IR increases > capital depreciation > land prices collapse > idiot buyers taking up the slack . . . .

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Nah , we've got the new weapon , quantitive easing

 

[Claraaa]

It will be the impact on pig and poultry slaughtering that really bites. Hugely serious situation.

Oh yeah, we’re really struggling… All gone to sh!t!

 

[farmerm]

Nah , we've got the new weapon , quantitive easing

Quantitative easing surely means currency devaluation which for a nation of importers goes on to create price inflation followed by wage inflation.....

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Nah , we've got the new weapon , quantitive easing

12 years of QE means that there are no lifeboats left on HMS Bank-of-England.

 

[Darius_Jedburgh]

Anyone who has ordered but hasn't yet taken delivery of their CF fertiliser might want to check the contract terms they have with their supplier/merchant as force-majeur, effectively cancelling their requirement to supply as per the original agreement has been implemented by CF in the US and if it comes to them choosing between doing the right thing by UK farmers and doing the legally right thing by protecting their shareholder's profits I'm guessing Mr UK Farmer will be the loser.

 

[bankrupt]

Nah , we've got the new weapon , quantitive easing

QE makes it a much easier ride up to the point of the crash, but no further.

 

[Worsall]

Rule of thumb is 1% reduction in rate for every 10% increase in price of N and 1% increase for every 10% increase in price of wheat.

With AN at £500 and wheat at £200 we'd be looking to cut back by 7-8% on last year figures.

But, fortunately, it's all in the shed at £275 so probably we'll go for a 2-3% increase here.

or sell fert at £500, pocket a massive profit, plant wheat and wait and see what happens

 

[robbie]

Rule of thumb is 1% reduction in rate for every 10% increase in price of N and 1% increase for every 10% increase in price of wheat.

With AN at £500 and wheat at £200 we'd be looking to cut back by 7-8% on last year figures.

But, fortunately, it's all in the shed at £275 so probably we'll go for a 2-3% increase here.

Is that 2 to 3% really worth bothering about????? If I can get my total N applications to within that % I fell chuffed with myself!!!!!?

 

[goodevans]

Nitrogen at £1 per kilo N is still the best paying input for my farm.

Putting in all my fert at today's prices, I'm still better off growing wheat. I can't grow a crop rotation without it.

No doubt you will know if, at these prices, you are going to adjust your fert inputs onto your grass, and if that is profitable re milk.

My ryegrass is my biggest use of nitrogen. I've not done the figures. I suspect third cut may not be worth it. A late extra nitrogen application to push milling protein currently isn't worth it.

That was my thinking,second and third cuts on a non dairy/AD farm are now going to be very marginal,especially taking it to account self propelled or wrapping costs

 

[Claraaa]

Took no chances here , ordered fert and stocked up with beer .

Might join you on that pal! The beer especially!

 

[lloyd]

Looks like all the hard talkers have capitulated and gone for cover.

 

[bobk]

Looks like all the hard talkers have capitulated and gone for cover.

Yes , I'm all wind and pi55 , ha ha ha

 

[bankrupt]

Is that 2 to 3% really worth bothering about????? If I can get my total N applications to within that % I fell chuffed with myself!!!!!?

No.

It's just the way the numbers crunch with this year's higher prices for grain to be produced with fertilizer bought at last year's.

And shows how very tolerant the optimum rate of N is to its price differential with wheat.

 

[bobk]

I wonder how much panic buying would have happened if wheat was £120 ..............

 

[Luke Cropwalker]

I still have some fert to buy but I have also have a lot of heavy land still to drill. I will be hand to mouth with the rest of my requirements.

 

[lloyd]

Interestingly there seems to be a relationship
building with the amount of tons of fertiliser being
needed by those also looking to benefit from carbon
credit trading on the premise of sustainable, enviromental benefitting no till farming.

 

[bobk]

Interestingly there seems to be a relationship
building with the amount of tons of fertiliser being
needed by those also looking to benefit from carbon
credit trading on the premise of sustainable, enviromental benefitting no till farming.

On the bright side , no sb volunteers to kill next spring , whoopee

 

[lloyd]

On the bright side , no sb volunteers to kill next spring , whoopee

Have you finished planting?
Apologies that question is 12mts too early.