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Things are changing. People are thinking more carefully about when and where any slurry and muck goes on and as more digestate becomes available with fertiliser going up at the same time almost pricing itself out now, there’s changes ahead
Policy is going to dictate it cant be used in the autumn and only on growing crops in the spring. Sure more will be used but we will see massive gear being used to try and apply in a timely manner. They simply won't be able to get around it all.
 
Things are changing. People are thinking more carefully about when and where any slurry and muck goes on and as more digestate becomes available with fertiliser going up at the same time almost pricing itself out now, there’s changes ahead
Are digesters still being built? I thought the subs had dried up for new ones, so not an infinite supply.

Also where does all this goodness in the digestate come from, if fed on crops alone, surely from the crops that go into it, and as I’m not a believer in the something from nothing principle, surely it would be needed back on the ground growing feedstock otherwise you are taking out more than putting back in, unless of course those crops are grown with fert to export digestate to grow someone else’s crops without.
 

JJT

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BASE UK Member
Location
Cumbria
What is the price of fert in the rest of the world? The high price here must be tempting a few more boatloads of urea to head over this way?
 

jg123

Member
Mixed Farmer
Radio4 just reporting that the deal with CF is that HMG will 'cover the operating costs' for 3 weeks production for the Billingham factory- At peak /optimal production the factory can produce around 1200t of Nitram a day but it may take a few days to reach this so a rough calculation is it will possibly make 15kt of fertiliser and a similar amount of CO2 - This is negligible in the scale of things and there is no indication that the current gas price will be low enough to alter the original commercial rationale why CF shut down production. Unless an alternative source of CO2 can be secured in a very short time we will be back at the same crisis point in 3 weeks time.

Any chance the deal included a requirement to sell the fertiliser to UK farmers at a reduced price given the cost of production has been covered by the UK tax payer or is the profit the sweetner being gifted to CF who have the UK by the short & curlies?......
If its tight margins tho, 3 weeks costs totally covered for a business that size could result in a few months normal profit generated in 3 weeks?? I cant see it being small figures
 

crazy_bull

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Huntingdon
What is the price of fert in the rest of the world? The high price here must be tempting a few more boatloads of urea to head over this way?

urea is flying up in price globally, as I have mentioned a few times, the rest of the world is in a similar situation to here, it’s not just here there have been shut downs, I believe even some of the favourite imported production facilities may have been stopped.

this is not just a UK issue it’s a global issue.

urea and UAN in the US is mega in price;

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fertman21

Member
Trade
With only one CF plant due to be turned back on, and even then only guaranteed for 3 weeks, that still leaves a massive lack of supply to the UK market. Prices are and will be all over the place for a while so you will need to think long and hard if your business can really cope without N fertiliser. How many ton of cereals can you grow without it, how many cows will you have to sell if you cant grow enough grass etc.
 

curlietailz

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Arable Farmer
Location
Sedgefield
Reporting the Govt handout is low tens of millions of ££. And not more than £50 million
For 3 weeks operating costs

then what ?

govt are encouraging a price rise in CO2 to the end user or seeking alternative supplies
 

balerman

Member
Location
N Devon
Reporting the Govt handout is low tens of millions of ££. And not more than £50 million
For 3 weeks operating costs

then what ?

govt are encouraging a price rise in CO2 to the end user or seeking alternative supplies
Yup,just to keep things going while they source supplies from elsewhere.I don’t think they care 2 hoots about our fertiliser,which is only going one way in price.
 

sidjon

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EXMOOR
Things are changing. People are thinking more carefully about when and where any slurry and muck goes on and as more digestate becomes available with fertiliser going up at the same time almost pricing itself out now, there’s changes ahead
Large estate has banned the misuse of digestate after was being dumped on a couple of farms and seem to be trying to stop Maize being grown for AD plants as well because of the complaints at harvest.
 
I’m not suggesting that digestate would take the place of fert I’m just thinking about the percentage replaced with digestate is getting bigger where I can see it. Also poorer ground becomes unfeasible for fert use as it goes up.
It’s dear and has been globally as far as I’m aware.
When I ordered the first lot in the spring I was told China and India had the wind up about their food supply and were forcefully subbing farmers to grow which had an effect on prices. Add on Corona interruptions and it’s never been right since
 

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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