I've sown up, so as they say I'm all inSo by panic buying you are helping how exactly?
I've sown up, so as they say I'm all inSo by panic buying you are helping how exactly?
If everyone went organic and cut yields. In reality most people will buy fert and most have good yields so the boys who have poor yields wont get £500/t to compensate. I bought N a few weeks ago when it looked expensive and people called me daft but now it looks not so bad. I dont need P and K next year levels are good enough. At current prices im not sure what id be buying. Personally on a mixed farm if everyone has poor yields and all short of feed i wont be able to afford to compete to buy in feed. The extra on fert is the cheaper option especially if store animals crash due to lack of feed and i have full clamps to finish cheap animals. ( wow thats nearly a glass half full thought )Even higher prices and remember the organic boys don't have a total failure because they don't fert, and lower fungicides and blah blah blah
So by panic buying you are helping how exactly?
this market is running despite the UK, been saying it for months, (granted didn’t forecast it getting to this much of a sh!t show globally) watch it get worse if China bans urea exports.
There is not enough N to go round globally.
With bog roll and petrol there is enough just people decided to hoard and thus over emphasise demand. I don’t know of anyone hoarding fert, if anything most consumers are short.
lower rates at these levels to ensure what/if you buy is economically effective.
Are you selling clover seed Luke?
https://www.agricentre.basf.co.uk/en/Products/Product-Search/Nitrogen/Limus-Clear.htmlLimus Clear B'o'B, never heard of it?
What make of fert is that?27.0.0.9s this morning at 485. Aberdeenshire
Yup. They're over a barrel now.Natural gas is now double the price it was when CF shut down in mid September. Is the government going to bail it out again?
surly if we don't use fertiliser the carbon footprint of the food will be higher as there is less yield to water down the fixed carbon costs (establishment , seed production, chems, harvest) but it wouldn't surprise me if they weren't looking at the bigger picture. food comes from the supermarket after all.Did the oil refineries and bog roll factories close tho?? Heard that George Eustice said in Manchester yesterday that the lack of fert may be a good thing for the uk to hit climate action targets. It seems most people couldnt care less about fert other than a small percentage of the population producing food
I looked yesterday, not gone up much.Be interesting to see what happens with Adblue, given that it is 32.5% urea...
if Urea is up 100% and AdBlue is 32.5% urea one would expect AdBlue to be up 32.5%... but then the materials are only part of the cost of production, a 100% rise in Urea price probably adds closer to 10% to AdBlue price? There may also still be producing on old stock urea with the jump in price still to filter through to the retail price?I looked yesterday, not gone up much.
Old news but:if Urea is up 100% and AdBlue is 32.5% urea one would expect AdBlue to be up 32.5%... but then the materials are only part of the cost of production, a 100% rise in Urea price probably adds closer to 10% to AdBlue price? There may also still be producing on old stock urea with the jump in price still to filter through to the retail price?
Apparently one company are increasing prices by £30 ton at mid day so others will follow
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