A surprising number of folks ( even on here ) seem to think grain and straw is produced in a factory just outside Milton Keynes. Nearly didn't get a crop at all after the spring/ early summer drought in 2020. I wouldn't risk forward selling of crops till they're safely in the shed.
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d williams
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If rather pay 50/ month then deal with British gas
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she'll be right at £300/mt for wheat then...
lloyd
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- Location
- Herefordshire
That is dry wheat at 72bushell not so easy on a catchy seasoner...
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she'll be right at £300/mt for wheat then...
for large parts of the UK.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Yes if it’s that price at harvest 2023.er...
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she'll be right at £300/mt for wheat then...
All depends how quickly the war is over and many other factors beyond my control.
It’s very high stakes game now.
If it’s £150 per ton at harvest 2023 then I’m probably putting up the for sale sign if I’ve spent big on fert.
lloyd
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- Location
- Herefordshire
Wow are you buying the whole fertiliser plant.
Broken clock and all that
Lost £800 of milk for sake of £350 of cake????
- Location
- Darlington
Locking in is very contentious but if I can't lock in enough to pay your fertiliser bill before I drill without being confident of growing that much very comfortably I would be very scared.
Even at £1000.00/t assuming you use 600kg/ha it would cost £600/ha or £240/acre forward wheat prices are currently above that.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
You can see why U.K. Ag is stuffed really. Farmers come on here grateful they can maybe, with a fair wind and lots of luck make £5 an acre after betting the farm on mega high input prices.
Like the NFU with RT it seems like some kind of badge of honour to many farmers to be able to close the tiny gap between supply industry greed and our customers determination to take as much of the cake as they possibly can.
Well I’ve more pride, more self worth than that. If margins are going to be wafer thin and the risk sky high then I’d rather mothball production and drive a bus for a year.
That’s how you negotiate. You don’t just buy at any price. We are not charities who have to produce food regardless.
Like the NFU with RT it seems like some kind of badge of honour to many farmers to be able to close the tiny gap between supply industry greed and our customers determination to take as much of the cake as they possibly can.
Well I’ve more pride, more self worth than that. If margins are going to be wafer thin and the risk sky high then I’d rather mothball production and drive a bus for a year.
That’s how you negotiate. You don’t just buy at any price. We are not charities who have to produce food regardless.
Traditionally, DrWazzock, April fool jokes posted after noon were thought to be unfunny.
This is the problem. If we knew exactly how much we were going to harvest then we would know our margins and lock in a forward sale price on everything to cover the inputs. I've always said we are not like a factory knocking out nuts and bolts that will more or less know their projected output down to the last thread. There are too many weather variables that can throw a spanner in the works. Take a ten year average sure. But in the last ten years I can guarantee there have been some record breaking high yields and also record breaking lows. Which one will this year be?And in a month or so time we will be expected to commit to expensive fertiliser for a crop that won't even be drilled until the Autumn,weather permitting (Remember Autumn 19 anyone?)
- Location
- Lincolnshire
This time last year I bought my last load of nitrogen fertiliser, fortunately to carry me through to harvest this year. Since that time the wholesale gas price has doubled so why has fertiliser price increased threefold? If that’s not supply side profiteering then I don’t know what is.
Wheat hasn’t even doubled let alone trebled yet we are as farmers are supposed to be incredibly grateful.
When nitrate gets back down to £500 per tonne I might start taking notice. Until that time we are being taken to the cleaners.
Wheat hasn’t even doubled let alone trebled yet we are as farmers are supposed to be incredibly grateful.
When nitrate gets back down to £500 per tonne I might start taking notice. Until that time we are being taken to the cleaners.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Regarding grain prices we could well be at a high that would not be seen again for a long time. Dangerous to budget on that basis.
frederick
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- Location
- south west
Are you sure about your before and after wholesale gas prices.
Are you planting a highly profitable sugar beet crop this spring?
- Location
- Lincolnshire
If you smooth out the recent spikes over the last 6 months then compare that to the price in June last year it’s about double. With forward buying on their scale and a .£50 million grant from the government I would have thought CF could have limited price rises to a doubling.
We as farmers are told to use forward selling to smooth spikes. Why couldn’t CF use their forward buying power to at least stay in business producing fertiliser? Strikes me that such an essential product is too strategically important to be left in foreign corporate ownership.
If it was a historically low £215 again, I would certainly buy two years worth.
Hindsight is wonderful isn't it.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Yes.
- Location
- Huntingdon
