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<blockquote data-quote="Cowabunga" data-source="post: 7942428" data-attributes="member: 718"><p>The presence we have in Ukraine, at Ukraine’s request, is limited to military strategic advisers and trainers. We also supply them with a limited range of short range defensive weapons. Ukraine is not in NATO but not because they choose not to be, they want to be part of it. However it has been diplomatically prudent to appease Russia and keep it out of NATO. Putin is adamant that Ukraine is part of the Soviet Union while Ukrainians hate the Russians and distrust them absolutely as aggressors. The paradox is, of course, that if Russia does invade Ukraine, which seems more likely than not at the moment, it will have borders directly with several countries that actually are in NATO for precisely the reason that we see unfolding. So much for Russia’s buffer between themselves and NATO then, which they will have dismantled by their own military actions. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> It does indeed have echoes of Germany’s invasion of several countries but principally Poland before the Second World War.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cowabunga, post: 7942428, member: 718"] The presence we have in Ukraine, at Ukraine’s request, is limited to military strategic advisers and trainers. We also supply them with a limited range of short range defensive weapons. Ukraine is not in NATO but not because they choose not to be, they want to be part of it. However it has been diplomatically prudent to appease Russia and keep it out of NATO. Putin is adamant that Ukraine is part of the Soviet Union while Ukrainians hate the Russians and distrust them absolutely as aggressors. The paradox is, of course, that if Russia does invade Ukraine, which seems more likely than not at the moment, it will have borders directly with several countries that actually are in NATO for precisely the reason that we see unfolding. So much for Russia’s buffer between themselves and NATO then, which they will have dismantled by their own military actions. :rolleyes: It does indeed have echoes of Germany’s invasion of several countries but principally Poland before the Second World War. [/QUOTE]
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