M-J-G
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But that's a variable rate that requires brain power, a struggle for many these days.
Fertiliser Spreading
- Thread starter sleepy
- Start date
- Location
- Chezvegas (chesterfield)
Drilling grass with the coulters just scratching, following Harrow just levelling, and putting tramlines in.
Makes life soo much easier. Fair enough the tramline grows over after a few years but then it's time to re -seed if it's a 3 year ley .
We have done acres and acres with the vicon and chain harrows , I have also done it with the quad and slug pelleter and just Cambridge rolled after if it was a bit nobbley.
Never done any underseeding as I can remember.
But most methods work.
Makes life soo much easier. Fair enough the tramline grows over after a few years but then it's time to re -seed if it's a 3 year ley .
We have done acres and acres with the vicon and chain harrows , I have also done it with the quad and slug pelleter and just Cambridge rolled after if it was a bit nobbley.
Never done any underseeding as I can remember.
But most methods work.
Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Well he knows everything else, so that cant be itSo he don't know if he is coming or going
jimmer
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- Location
- East Devon
eh!!!!
surely you have done the head land first ,and will reach the place to shut off before needing to turn
so therefore my answer is both at the same time
posh buggers with split sided shut offs
I forgot the other bit that drives me mad about fertiliser spreading.
Taking the barsteward thing off again, balancing it precariously on pallets and then trying to do some form of vertical limbo to squeeze behind the back wheel to undo the top link.
Then strapping it onto the pallets before I put it back into the shed because I can guarantee if I don't do that it will jump off the pallets
Good riddance for another few weeks mr fertiliser spreader
I'm sure it didn't look like that in real life
Taking the barsteward thing off again, balancing it precariously on pallets and then trying to do some form of vertical limbo to squeeze behind the back wheel to undo the top link.
Then strapping it onto the pallets before I put it back into the shed because I can guarantee if I don't do that it will jump off the pallets
Good riddance for another few weeks mr fertiliser spreader
I'm sure it didn't look like that in real life
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
eh!!!!
surely you have done the head land first ,and will reach the place to shut off before needing to turn
so therefore my answer is both at the same time
posh buggers with split sided shut offs
I agree. I use the tramlines or wheel marks on the headlands as a reference and shut off the spinner around three to five yards after crossing the wheel marks towards the boundary hedge. The reverse when entering work where I cross the wheel marks by three to five meters before opening starting the fertiliser. Spinners tend to throw quite a distance behind the machine, while Varispreaders with spouts throw mainly sideways and require a different method that is easier to judge.
Another variable is how quickly any electrical shutter control actually works. When travelling fast and applying heavy doses, I've found some spreaders to take two or three seconds to fully open or close. You travel quite some distance in that time. Actually 8 to 12 metres.
I always work on the machine spreading about half the spread width behind it. So 24m spread = 12m behind.
Therefore I turn off the machine as I turn into the tramline again.
How do GPS controlled machine deal with the shutter lag?
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
It is to be hoped that If I can work out, so can the machine designers and build in the necessary adjustments with a greater degree of accuracy than I could possibly work to with any degree of consistency.
Hmmmmm.................
mushnt grummmble
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Rotaspreader
- Location
- south norfolk
I had some nitram last week that had dried clods and big stones in with the fertiliser.will mention it to openfield when i speak to them again
Nick...
Nick...
- Location
- Galloway
Slurry store
Heard that's how the organic folks sometimes get extra grass
The serious lack of room is a jd problem, plenty of room with nh, unless you've eaten too many doughnuts. ;-)I forgot the other bit that drives me mad about fertiliser spreading.
Taking the barsteward thing off again, balancing it precariously on pallets and then trying to do some form of vertical limbo to squeeze behind the back wheel to undo the top link.
Then strapping it onto the pallets before I put it back into the shed because I can guarantee if I don't do that it will jump off the pallets
Good riddance for another few weeks mr fertiliser spreader
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I'm sure it didn't look like that in real life
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A few have stated on this thread that fitting tyres the "wrong" way round improves traction but stops self cleaning.
Therefore, on a trailed machine, the best way to fit the tyres is the "right" way round as it will improve braking ability whilst retaining self cleaning? So all those fitting tyres to spreaders the "wrong" way round are being too clever by half?
- Location
- Huntingdon
A few have stated on this thread that fitting tyres the "wrong" way round improves traction but stops self cleaning.
Therefore, on a trailed machine, the best way to fit the tyres is the "right" way round as it will improve braking ability whilst retaining self cleaning? So all those fitting tyres to spreaders the "wrong" way round are being too clever by half?
It depends what you want to achieve surely?
Surely on a trailed machine you're pulling the tyre so the tread SHOULD be the wrong way round for self cleaning?A few have stated on this thread that fitting tyres the "wrong" way round improves traction but stops self cleaning.
Therefore, on a trailed machine, the best way to fit the tyres is the "right" way round as it will improve braking ability whilst retaining self cleaning? So all those fitting tyres to spreaders the "wrong" way round are being too clever by half?
As far as traction is concerned, why would tractor manufacturers fit tyres so that they don't grip as well as they should?
is it just me who hates fertiliser spreading?
The whole job is just a pita from beginning to end, first tray testing and setting drop point, messing round with half a bag.
Then calibrating the rate if you don't have a weigh cell spreader, test weigh adjust repeat.
Then loading it up, messing around cutting bags open, shaking the last bit out, empty bags blow away, hands stinging and sticky.
Then finally driving to field, and not having tramlines in a grass field it's a pita knowing where to drive at 24m. GPS makes it easier but it still feels like guesswork wondering where to switch the spreader on and off.
Then you inevitable run out just before the end of the field, or if on a hill it all moves to one side and the other side is empty.
Then if you have banks anything like ours you are shitting yourself going across the slope as the back wheel lifts on and off the ground. So you slowdown so you don't topple over but of course then you are over applying so have to speed up again.
Then finally you finish the field (and look at the GPS coverage map and think it doesn't look so bad after all) but realise you did the whole thing with the border limiter engaged.
Then you get back to the yard and spend 3 hours washing the spreader off so it doesn't vaporise before next use.
Then you look at bloody stripes all summer.
liquid !
General-Lee
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- Location
- Devon
It's set for a lot less than 12m( can't remember top of my head!) although working in the dark Amazone throws it further forward than our old Kuhn.
Weasel
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- Location
- in the hills
Does anybody have problems with the fins wearing out on Kuhn spreaders? Mine lasted a year and I see now there showing signs of wear, they end up with holes through them. Am I doing something wrong or are kuhns. Crap?