Fertilizer a little lumpy!!

[Fish]

One advantage of bulk, no hidden problems, and if you find the odd lump just drop the loader bucket on it and your good to go.

 

[nick...]

Had a bag of 20 10 10 couple years ago for a small field.it was mostly large lumps.used maybe 100 kg and chucked the rest out.it was solid.rep was sympathetic and said to send pics which I did.these got sent to CF and they gave me a hundred quid credit.they woukd not replace it and just about impossible to get one bag.they really could not care less to be honest.another case of big companies phucking over small farmers.
nick...

 

[JJT]

is that amidas by chance? We’ve a pile of bags gone to sh!t but stored outside for a while so guessed they’d just blame us. It was just like slush coming out.

Origin 26N 37S. Been on farm about a month and stored inside. One really bad bag and 4 others with smaller amounts of wet in.

 

[Agri Spec Solicitor]

One dry day our fert was delivered but bags were wet with pockets of water in the neck.
Are the bags stored under cover at the factory from manufacture til collection by the lorry? I expect a sheeted lorry trailer unless it is a dry day and no rain forecast.
Once bags are wet then they need to be used quickly in my experience.

 

[Bernardbean]

If bags are wet when they come out of curtainsider I always put a note on the delivery ticket, just in case it's lumpy, makes a complaint harder to refuse....

 

[teslacoils]

Perhaps all of you with complaints should get together and complain together?

 

[Martin Holden]

All looks like a good ad for liquid fert’!

 

[Goweresque]

Perhaps all of you with complaints should get together and complain together?

It does occur to me that the small claims system might be utilised here. Its very easy, you can do it all online. And large companies are often so bureaucratic that they don't manage to oppose the claim in time and you get a CCJ issued against the company by default. I think you'd need to have tried to get satisfaction from the company first, and have all of that documented, and their refusal to recompense you, but if you had all that to hand and some pictures of the offending bags, and the purchase invoice etc, I'd say you'd have a decent chance of sticking in a claim and getting a CCJ, which could be then enforced using bailiffs, if it came to that. I suspect once the CCJ was issued they'd pay up.

Thats pretty much what happened when the NFU Mutual refused to pay my claim against a vehicle they insured that crashed into the back of me, I chucked all the documentation into a small claims case, I got the CCJ by default because whatever department got served with the court papers never responded in time, and once I had the CCJ they were stuck and had to agree to pay my claim in full.

I think it costs about £60 to put a claim in, and you get that back if your claim is upheld. If all the aggrieved customers put in claims at once I think it might get their attention.

 

[Sid]

Following this thread with interest, last thing I want to be doing is mucking about with lumpy fertiliser under the cover of darkness on my organic farm

 

[Tractor Boy]

I got this happen this year. Not lumpy but two completely different types of DAP in the same load. When I spoke to Amazone they both needed different vane settings. How the hell are you supposed to do that when until you split the bottom of the bag you don’t know which DAP is going to come out.
In the end I opened all the bag tops to see which was in them and sorted the load into two batches for different spreader settings.

 

[paul&mandy]

I’m also getting the odd bag with something extra.......

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What are the lumps? had a few artic loads like that, dangerous spreading alongside roads

 

[Lofty1984]

Found two lumps of concrete last week sat on the grid

 

[An Gof]

All looks like a good ad for liquid fert’!

That doesn’t solve the P & K problems

 

[Big Blue Yonder]

got some Origin N&S with the same issues
apparently at the Origin plant a lot of fertiliser stored outside under a sheet
I know mine all arrived wet which I noted on the delivery note
Rep said to take photos and they would complain on my behalf
I'll not hold my breath

 

[colhonk]

I think wet is a lot more trouble than lumps
How are they allowed to get away with such bad quality?

 

[farmerm]

If I have a batch of bags I have found to be lumpy I raise them about 4-6 inches off the ground and then drop the loader back down. Its a bit of an art, lift too high and the loader doesn't drop them quick enough, not high enough and there is no effect, get it right and the impact can shatter lumps. 2 drops is usually plenty unless it is a very bad batch that has been stored too long.

 

[Lofty1984]

Only works if they are hard on the bottom though

 

[farmerm]

Origin prilled N.

Either lumpy or slush puppy.

only been on farm for 6 weeks.

I will have some like that because the dog has pricked a load of bags

 

[farmerm]

Only works if they are hard on the bottom though

No the shock will go right though the bag.

 

[farmerm]

I got this happen this year. Not lumpy but two completely different types of DAP in the same load. When I spoke to Amazone they both needed different vane settings. How the hell are you supposed to do that when until you split the bottom of the bag you don’t know which DAP is going to come out.
In the end I opened all the bag tops to see which was in them and sorted the load into two batches for different spreader settings.


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If you had received type A would you have ever known that you had selected vane settings from the manual which more move appropriate to type B or where you about to go to tray test the spread pattern to confirm your selection?