fertilizer crisis

[glasshouse]

We have a bit left probably spend the same as I normally do on a bit more and work round the problem.
its to late to panic early now

I told you wheat would be £300 soon
Just sold milling wheat @£230

 

[jh.]

I wasn't actually having a go at you specifically, soz if that's how it seemed. Just there's quite a lot of posts on various threads aluding to fert companies "profiteering". Call me old fashioned, is that not what we all want to do?

That's how I feel about it all . If fert companies hadn't sold much and are stocked up at the old production costs , then gas price rockets , so they triple the price of that old stock , they only need to sell a third of those tons to make same cash .

I am doing the same , not sold any 2021 harvest yet or bought any fert for next year and no plan to at the moment , other than holding as long as possible . No winter crops sown and if the grain sheds still full in spring , might just sell off a few loads occasionally and not bother with spring crops either.

Being a one man band with no livestock means I could do this for the year , just to see how the future pricing goes .

 

[neilo]

I told you wheat would be £300 soon
Just sold milling wheat @£230

If you have any confidence in your prediction, why have you sold at £230?

 

[glasshouse]

If you have any confidence in your prediction, why have you sold at £230?

Not got the storage
Need the shed for other stuff

 

[David.]

If I was a business that used a lot of gas, I would have tried to hedge as much as I cold afford, and then some more, at last years giveaway prices.
Surely they did so?

 

[icanshootwell]

Not got the storage
Need the shed for other stuff

Fert

 

[Henarar]

I told you wheat would be £300 soon
Just sold milling wheat @£230

"soon" I think you told me that about10 year ago

 

[nails]

We have a bit left probably spend the same as I normally do on a bit more and work round the problem.
its to late to panic early now

Do you need fertiliser for farming a suckler herd in Somerset?. At the price atm i would have thought not. I certainly will not buy any at that price.

 

[Henarar]

Do you need fertiliser for farming a suckler herd in Somerset?. At the price atm i would have thought not. I certainly will not buy any at that price.

been cutting down for years, as you say may not bother, see what tis in the spring

 

[glasshouse]

"soon" I think you told me that about10 year ago

Try 4

 

[glasshouse]

Fert

No

 

[DrWazzock]

Phosphate holiday this year. Index is good. Half a dose of potash. Fed up of being ripped off.

 

[DrWazzock]

They are trying it on course with P and K. No shortage but they’ll put the price up anyway.

 

[DRC]

Genuine question. How much less fertiliser do you use in a regen system? @Clive Is this a way of forcing us down that route?
WB

What do you mean by a regen system. Plenty of mixed, dairy farmers using plenty of animal manure. Then there’s all the digestate from the AD plants locally . Is that regen?
I’m down to needing one 29t load of N and about 15 ton of 26n 35s on a 400 acre farm, as we use the above .

 

[glasshouse]

Back in 1880,s
The towns started dumping all the sewage at sea, that was the final nail in uk arable farming on top of cheap american grain.
That was the victorian fert crisis

 

[DrWazzock]

It all used to be regen. Grandads dairy farm was organic and sustainable until 1925 long before it became trendy.

 

[Phil P]

Phosphate holiday this year. Index is good. Half a dose of potash. Fed up of being ripped off.

Same here

 

[DRC]

This all might be a watershed moment .
2.5-3 ton wheat at £250 ton with greatly reduced costs , easier harvesting and less storage needed . Just as well off, if not better off .

 

[ollie989898]

Virtually none of you should be buying P or K. With digestate, sewage and cripes knows what else available you should be using these materials rather than bagged stuff because it is kinder on the land.

 

[Exfarmer]

Yes I’d agree.the garage I used was beside A11 so probably higher prices but having said that a local town where I work was 150 on Tuesday.may be its regional.super market fuel is allways cheaper aswell
nick...

Dont you have a fuel card Nick? The South bound at Attleborough takes them not sure about tother side. Cant see they would ever sell fuel at the prices they quote normally 12p over my local