fertilizer crisis

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Virtually none of you should be buying P or K. With digestate, sewage and cripes knows what else available you should be using these materials rather than bagged stuff because it is kinder on the land.

My tenancy agreement expressly states that I can’t apply sewage sludge here. Given the heavy metals and micro plastics that come with it, maybe the landlord isn’t so daft in not wanting his asset contaminated?
 

jh.

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Location
fife
My tenancy agreement expressly states that I can’t apply sewage sludge here. Given the heavy metals and micro plastics that come with it, maybe the landlord isn’t so daft in not wanting his asset contaminated?
I don't think it's allowed on malting barley contracts either
 

andybk

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
Tbf if all ag products had gone up in line with inflation over the years , any rises with inputs like now would be more palatable to the whole chain and a lot of the rises absorbed , but there is no fat left in anything anymore , the pigeons have now come home to roost after a decades long stranglehold by the supermarkets (we are the cheapest blah blah ) and the rest , now 20 or 30 years of pent up inflation is going to hit the public and the stock market very hard all in one go .
 

nick...

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
Dont you have a fuel card Nick? The South bound at Attleborough takes them not sure about tother side. Cant see they would ever sell fuel at the prices they quote normally 12p over my local
No fuel card as I don’t do huge miles In fact only 4000 in last 18 months.fuel in wymondham is much the same price aswell.
nick...
 

Nithsdale

Member
Livestock Farmer
My tenancy agreement expressly states that I can’t apply sewage sludge here. Given the heavy metals and micro plastics that come with it, maybe the landlord isn’t so daft in not wanting his asset contaminated?


Was there not a couple dairy farms totally ruined by spreading that stuff? Sure it was in the press in the last 12months

Silage went off in the clamp due to contamination, milk yield fell off a cliff and the cattle went downhill terribly


You'd be mad to contemplate it
 
Was there not a couple dairy farms totally ruined by spreading that stuff? Sure it was in the press in the last 12months

Silage went off in the clamp due to contamination, milk yield fell off a cliff and the cattle went downhill terribly


You'd be mad to contemplate it

On grass?

The best crop of forage maize I have ever seen grown anywhere in any country was on land fed sewage sludge.
 

DRC

Member
On grass?

The best crop of forage maize I have ever seen grown anywhere in any country was on land fed sewage sludge.
We took it for years and it was great for maize . The days when Utd utilities delivered and spread it for free. Soil tested the whole farm .
supply then became an issue forsome reason. Think they incinerated a lot of it, and we started the pig muck deal so didn’t need it .
 

Dragon

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Location
Cornwall
Was there not a couple dairy farms totally ruined by spreading that stuff? Sure it was in the press in the last 12months

Silage went off in the clamp due to contamination, milk yield fell off a cliff and the cattle went downhill terribly


You'd be mad to contemplate it
That was some sort factory waste, which was supplied as "fertiliser" it was full of toxins, should never have been spread.
 

Optimus

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North of Perth
It would be nice to know what proportion gas has gone up in relation to fertiliser and the c02 gas there selling
they had the gas bought forward but decided to sell it back at a higher price
which is business
Not sure if this is right but told by lad we get fert from.some had bought at 40p/unit of gas.not sure what is bought in.or exactly when they bought it.the price was £4/unit couple weeks ago.no wonder there selling back.
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
It would be nice to know what proportion gas has gone up in relation to fertiliser and the c02 gas there selling
they had the gas bought forward but decided to sell it back at a higher price
which is business
So they had it purchased at sensible money, then sold it for a profit, then pleaded poverty, held country to ransom and got cash from the tax payer to subsidise the CO2 production?

Jeez.

Not bought CF for a few years on principle. Don't like the charade of releasing a price and then withdraw it a few days later, telling us price will then be higher. Sure fire way to upset your customer. Or at least it has me.

I'll be purchasing from a different manufacturer - indefinitely.
 

David.

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
Don't forget 2 yrs ago, when they pulled the stunt of not wanting to allow you to cancel some of your order in response to not getting planted up. Then to to drop the price £20 ton when the all orders were in.
 

B'o'B

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
Don't forget 2 yrs ago, when they pulled the stunt of not wanting to allow you to cancel some of your order in response to not getting planted up. Then to to drop the price £20 ton when the all orders were in.
CF have now cashed their chips. British blue bag fert has zero marketing credibility now. I have no idea how much money they have made in their recent deals, but they have completely destroyed my previous conception of them in the last month.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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