Fibrophos 0/12/12

[dws]

What your thinking?
Have you tried it?

 

[JMTHORNLEY]

Something I want to use this year after silage, got a few reseeds to do and was looking at this to lift indexes. Looks to be a good enough product and plenty use it, time of application is key as it can lock a few things up? Also a Ph buffer

 

[Ffermer Bach]

can't use fibrophos is you are organic, as the chooks are not kept organically!

 

[hendrebc]

can't use fibrophos is you are organic, as the chooks are not kept organically!

Why whats fibrophos made out of?

 

[Ffermer Bach]

chicken muck, burned in a power station, it is the ash that is left after the muck has been burned to produce electricity. I think in Norfolk or Suffolk. And because the chickens are kept on I guess deep litter and are fed non organic feed, the fibrophos cant be used on an organic farm.

 

[GTB]

Never used it but it sounds like a decent product. How does it compare to bagged fert on cost and how much per acre do you apply?

I think @Kevtherev sells it?

 

[Ffermer Bach]

you dont have to worry about putting the potash on in the autumn, I think you dont get luxury uptake so no problems with staggers.

 

[JMTHORNLEY]

you dont have to worry about putting the potash on in the autumn, I think you dont get luxury uptake so no problems with staggers.

This is my thinking with after silage.. Let the cattle in to clean up and then spread the Fibrophos on after that. I have been talking to a few people and 250kgs-750kgs/ per Acre doesn't seem uncommon. I'd personally look for the highest per acre I possibly can due to how low some spots are here

 

[GTB]

Does it need to be spread with a lime spreader or will a spinner manage?

 

[JMTHORNLEY]

Got to be a lime spreader really and a few people seem to like it if it has a night of rain to hold it together a bit better.. Well so I'm told

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Someone told me they'd be concerned about Cadmium and lead build up if used long term. Anything in this?
And what about limex, how does it compare?

 

[Adam@Rumen]

Any chance of botulism if it's from chicken muck or will the burning sort that?

 

[JMTHORNLEY]

Any chance of botulism if it's from chicken muck or will the burning sort that?

Would have thought the burning would cure that problem. Not many germs going to survive them heat chambers.. only a guess mind

 

[Kevtherev]

Fibrophos is totally safe and free from pathogens it’s incinerated poultry litter.
Application rates 400/800 kg ha based on every 2-3 years
Applied by a lime spreader as it’s a bulk product @GTB

 

[Kevtherev]

A lot of trace elements also in fibrophos sulphur magnesium and sodium.
Due to the nature of the product it’s readily available to the plants to take up

 

[Poorbuthappy]

A lot of trace elements also in fibrophos sulphur magnesium and sodium.
Due to the nature of the product it’s readily available to the plants to take up

So no cadmium/lead?

 

[Kevtherev]

So no cadmium/lead?

Low in heavy metals and cadmium
Not heard of any problems regarding heavy metals.
@Cab-over Pete @Mounty

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Low in heavy metals and cadmium
Not heard of any problems regarding heavy metals.
@Cab-over Pete @Mounty

I suspect my guy is rather over cautious.

 

[Mounty]

Just to answer general questions above

Any heavy metal content is minimal. Trace elements include Iron, Manganese, Copper, Boron, Molybdenum, Cobalt and Selenium.

P wont get locked up like TSP

Needs to be spread with a lime spreader or machine with wide moving belt.

No pathogens. Burnt at 850 dec C for 30 secs I think which will sort them.

Hard to beat on price, especially with all the other nutrients included. Prices on Marketplace.

@Poorbuthappy Doesn't really compare to Limex. Only 1% P2O5 per tonne and its a lime product not a fert.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

All good advice from Kev and Mounty.

I’ve got customers who have been using it for over 15 years. No problems at all, good yields, improved bushel weights and better quality grain or grass are some of the comments I hear.

We can spread any time from clean stubble to early spring on crops. On grass it’s usually spring and occasionally after mowing.

Not saying it’s a miracle product but generally it’s a very good addition to most farming systems, but not organic I’m afraid.