Fibrophos/tiger fert V artificial fert

Discussion in 'Cropping' started by Will 1594, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. Any one using it Versus bagged compounds , we can spread it with own bredal and lime discs , is it too slow release or better For that ? how much available nutrient for sugar beet as can get salt added in it too , or is it better for long term to keep up indices , this is structure less flinty sand heavily root cropped
     
  2. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    I can't speak for the Tiger stuff, but I've successfully raised soil indices with Fibrophos. I usually do biennial doses at variable rate because it suits my logistics and the spreading contractor to be doing bigger doses.

    https://www.fibrophos.co.uk/fertiliser-specification/

    If you're deficient in something and need a quick fix, I'd stick with a tailor made blend but be aware that some of the ingredients can be quite inert. I used to use a beet blend pre ploughing that matched offtake then corrected anything with straights when we soil sampled.
     
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  3. 7800

    7800 Member

    Location:
    cambridgeshire
    british sugar may have done some trials ?
     
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  4. These products are excellent in terms of value and provision of nutrients. Plus you will get a good dollop of trace and secondary nutrients too.

    Get some on.
     
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  5. I believe these kinds of products are kinder on the soil and want to be applied well in advance of crop requirement but you do need sufficient area/tonnage to make it worthwhile. Had not thought of biennial doses that is a good idea.
     
  6. Chae1

    Chae1 Member

    Location:
    Aberdeenshire
    You have to pay someone to spread it is main drawback in my opinion.

    What do you charge for applying 700kg/ha @Cab-over Pete .

    Is it best applied to ploughing, or can you put it on stubble and plough it in?
     
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  7. Clive

    Clive Staff Member

    Location:
    Lichfield
    I’m a big fan if Fibrophos / kalphos etc

    Have been very successful with them, they are much more cost effective than bagged products in my experience


    Going to use Tigerphos this year though instead of fibrophos - it’s a lot cheaper and looks like it should spread much better. - some I go about it here click me !
     
  8. Fred

    Fred Member

    Location:
    Mid Northants
    I assume this is going onto spring crops
     
  9. neilo

    neilo Member

    Location:
    Montgomeryshire
    What sort of price are the Tigerfert products, and what analysis? The website seems a little light on spec, etc.:scratchhead:
     
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  10. Andrew K

    Andrew K Member

    Location:
    Essex
    Clive,
    It is cheap for a reason.We have had it for a couple of years but found it too dry and dusty at the time to spread more than 8m which is not worth the extra compaction if you ask me.
    We were promised that the Moisture content would be increased to 10% to overcome this problem, but no, it arrived too dry again. We solved problem by leaving product out all winter to moisten up, and by not ordering again!
    Its not just me, main contractor in our area wont touch it either. We both prefer Fibrophos, beware....
     
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  11. Dave6170

    Dave6170 Member

    Location:
    Watten, caithness
    Tigerfert had a big advertising banner across the forum screen yesterday :whistle::whistle::whistle:
     
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  12. Clive

    Clive Staff Member

    Location:
    Lichfield
    Interesting - I thought the more granular nature of Tigerphos would make it spread better but haven’t tried it yet - it’s so much cheaper that it looked a bit of a no brainier on the face of things

    I have got on great with Fibrophos at 12m spread - it’s good stuff but does look expensive vs the Tigerphos
     
  13. Clive

    Clive Staff Member

    Location:
    Lichfield
    You will see them for Fibrophos, Pgrow and kalphos as well - all are available on TFF Farm Marketplace as well
     
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2019
  14. the main thing I like about these types of ferts is that they are sustainable, instead of using mined ferts which are running out!!
     
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  15. If they could pellet it ,to say like a small pig pellet or even granulate it ,so you can go down tramlines it would appeal much more ,and one of drawbacks ,is 20 ton load , would its price be too great pelleted and 1 ton bags
     
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  16. Chae1

    Chae1 Member

    Location:
    Aberdeenshire
    Is it sustainable taking large amounts of straw, burning it then reapplying ash as K?

    Be more sustainable just to chop the straw behind the combine. Or put it in a cattle court and reapply it as FYM?
     
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  17. its only burnt for a reason, like generating electricity, also straw is renewable year on year and the bonus is we get some food.
     

  18. Pelleting anything is very expensive and time consuming
     
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  19. Clive

    Clive Staff Member

    Location:
    Lichfield
    You still have off take or deficient soils to correct even if you chop straw

    Muck is the best fert by far but it also only spreads narrow and is very bulky and not always available
     
  20. Andrew K

    Andrew K Member

    Location:
    Essex
    Looks like the sample in the advert is definitely more granular than the stuff we had ,so you might well be ok if they have improved the formulation @Clive?
    We paid £46 per ton last time.
     

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