Fibrophos/tiger fert V artificial fert

[Daniel Larn]

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[neilo]

60ac of permanent pasture dressed with Fibrophos this morning. I will feel content with using such a sustainable product, all the way until the bill comes.

 

[richard hammond]

60ac of permanent pasture dressed with Fibrophos this morning. I will feel content with using such a sustainable product, all the way until the bill comes.

Cheaper than other forms of fert, so you should be happy, and you are helping to save the world!

 

[neilo]

Cheaper than other forms of fert, so you should be happy, and you are helping to save the world!

For small lots up here, as most small/medium sized livestock/mixed farms will be on, the cost of Fibrophos (delivered and spread) is about the same as the equivalent amount of P&K delivered as bags of 0:24:24. Whether the nutrient availability is the same, is anyone's guess. £140/t delivered and spread here, at 500-600 kg/ha. It only gets (much) cheaper if you have artic loads and are farming in the South/East of the country.

I have gone to using it for maintenance dressings of P&K on grazing ground, applied every 2 or 3 years. As I'm not saving much financially, I shall console myself in being a smug ecowarrior instead.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, doesn’t it?

 

[principal skinner]

Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, doesn’t it?

No, your all to blame for my Sirius minerals shares not performing............... may be a good time to buy some more [emoji6]

 

[FBain4532]

Started using Fibrophos in central Scotland 15+ years ago, firstly trialing it on grassland and have steadily increased it into arable rotation as well as we grow confident in the product. We still use some bagged P&K, using tailor made blends 0-5-53/0-20-30/0-30-15 mainly put down in seedbeds with the drills to balance P and K deficits and off takes. No VR mapping for fert, instead individual field testing to make individual field fert plans. After years of the neighbours saying that'll not work we are now advising and spreading fibrophos for some, and for others we now contract farm for them(one of which was fully VR pH,P,K and seed rate) .. Last time Soyl tried to sell me VR they left agreeing they couldn't save me enough to pay for all the overheads.

 

[Chae1]

For small lots up here, as most small/medium sized livestock/mixed farms will be on, the cost of Fibrophos (delivered and spread) is about the same as the equivalent amount of P&K delivered as bags of 0:24:24. Whether the nutrient availability is the same, is anyone's guess. £140/t delivered and spread here, at 500-600 kg/ha. It only gets (much) cheaper if you have artic loads and are farming in the South/East of the country.

I have gone to using it for maintenance dressings of P&K on grazing ground, applied every 2 or 3 years. As I'm not saving much financially, I shall console myself in being a smug ecowarrior instead.

Sounds a fair bit cheaper than bagged. I was £330/t for 10.15.21.

 

[neilo]

Sounds a fair bit cheaper than bagged. I was £330/t for 10.15.21.

No nitrogen in Fibrophos though. Just 0:12:12 and a heap of Calcium, along with a few trace elements at very low levels. Hence comparing it to 0:24:24 for ease, which was sub-£300/t the last time I looked (no idea where it is now though).

 

[Brisel]

 

[Chae1]

No nitrogen in Fibrophos though. Just 0:12:12 and a heap of Calcium, along with a few trace elements at very low levels. Hence comparing it to 0:24:24 for ease, which was sub-£300/t the last time I looked (no idea where it is now though).

Nitrogen at £300/t 33.5.

So for 10 units in blend divide by 3, adds £100/t to fibrophos price so making it £240/t with N?

 

[Andrew K]

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Are those trace element levels at useful amounts or barely significant?

 

[Wobblebox]

So in summary, which is the best to spread, Tiger Fert, Fibrephos, PGro or Kalphos?

If I wanted to apply 150 kg/ha P, I'd apply 325 kg/ha TSP, if i were applying Tiger Fert i'd be applying 375 kg/ha, this seems a low application rate for a lime spreader, can they be that accurate?

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Yes, as long as they are lime and fert spreaders.

Fibrophos would give you the most trace and secondary elements. Even the folks at Tigerfert will say that. Fibrophos contains the most incinerated chicken manure.

 

[Clive]

So in summary, which is the best to spread, Tiger Fert, Fibrephos, PGro or Kalphos?

If I wanted to apply 150 kg/ha P, I'd apply 325 kg/ha TSP, if i were applying Tiger Fert i'd be applying 375 kg/ha, this seems a low application rate for a lime spreader, can they be that accurate?

depends on the price

at current Tigerphos prices its the better option vs Fibrophos IMO at the moment

 

[J 1177]

How did you find the Kalfos @Clive. We have put it on, the crops look well but We have had good weather.

 

[Clive]

How did you find the Kalfos @Clive. We have put it on, the crops look well but We have had good weather.

yes its good stuff and very good value - i've not tested the fields we applied to since application yet but will be doing so this spring, crops have done / looked well on it however but testing should add some substance to it

 

[Brisel]

Are those trace element levels at useful amounts or barely significant?

All useful. Hard to compare as foliar tonics will have a different dose rate for a reason - foliar absorption not root uptake. The Mg is 20 kg/ha on a 500 kg/ha maintenance dose. Half crop offtake but still a help.

 

[Andrew K]

All useful. Hard to compare as foliar tonics will have a different dose rate for a reason - foliar absorption not root uptake. The Mg is 20 kg/ha on a 500 kg/ha maintenance dose. Half crop offtake but still a help.

Thanks.

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

No, your all to blame for my Sirius minerals shares not performing............... may be a good time to buy some more [emoji6]

Now is the time