Field hospitals

[som farmer]

and people still complain at our guvs handling of the crisis ?

 

[Danllan]

The American states now seem to be locked into a ridiculous bidding war with one another over medical supplies and ventilators. But Trump seems incapable or unwilling to intervene. This is not going to end well for them.

It a f^cking stupid situation but the bickering will end quickly, and the US has the know-how and - still - the industrial base to get through this alright.

There will be a fair bit of come-back against President Trump, but I've been keeping my eye on the situation there and can't see any democratic bigwig who has said or done anything worthy of praise.

 

[Steevo]

Just don't live down wind

Interesting. Just hope some poor bugger doesnt live at the end of the exhaust pipe!

I would like to hope that they'd have a filtration/disinfectation system before discharging.

 

[GeorgeK]

I would like to hope that they'd have a filtration/disinfectation system before discharging.

They've filled the ducts with onions

 

[A1an]

That's a lot of infected air being blown out into London,

It is currently thought that Covid 19 is not an airborne disease.

I still wouldn't like to stick my head in the exhaust ?

 

[Hindsight]

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The BBC, in particular, had a chance to prove its worth in the current situation, it has failed utterly, merely continuing with its left-liberal b!tching and agenda. It will regret that later, and serve it right.
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Hi Danllann - I listen to PM on radio 4 and are finding Evan Davies approach to questioning and the interviewees interesting and informative. Am in incorrect?

I welcome your observation on which programmes (maybe all?) on BBC are following a left-liberal bitching agenda.

Thank you.

 

[Muck Spreader]

It a f^cking stupid situation but the bickering will end quickly, and the US has the know-how and - still - the industrial base to get through this alright.

There will be a fair bit of come-back against President Trump, but I've been keeping my eye on the situation there and can't see any democratic bigwig who has said or done anything worthy of praise.

Looking at the age of them all, I guess they are all in isolation lock-down. Leaving to Govener Quomo to shout the odds.

 

[oil barron]

Watching the news tonight, there's a stark contrast between the 4000 bed Nightingale hospital in London
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and the half hearted 'scout camp' in Central Park NY.
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Somehow I do feel that New Yorkers really have drawn the short straw now.
Where would you rather be treated?

the nightingale is very impressive. I’m not sure that the field hospital in Central Park is a fair comparison. It is something like 68 beds total out of the added 10,000 there will be.
No doubt New York is going to be hit very hard, it is the worlds crossing point. However the governer there is doing everything he can to make it look bad with gleefull assistance from the media. Contrast with California which also has a Democrat governor but is putting all that nonsense aside to just focus on the job at hand.
I think where America has done better is not doing the 80% pay for people to stay at home, all the take out restaurant are still open here so no where near as bad in the supermarkets. I think the UK is going to be very sluggish in getting people back to work after this.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Why does it take a crisis to prove how Great, Britain still is

 

[som farmer]

They've filled the ducts with onions

hopefully not Spanish ones

 

[wanton dwarf]

Watching the news tonight, there's a stark contrast between the 4000 bed Nightingale hospital in London
View attachment 867282
and the half hearted 'scout camp' in Central Park NY.
View attachment 867283

Somehow I do feel that New Yorkers really have drawn the short straw now.
Where would you rather be treated?

It's too early to say TBH.

If those are chemical or medical tents fit for contageous diseases then they will be better than the convention centres.

4,000 people pumping out the virus will most likely kill anyone in there .. I'd rather be treated in an isolation ward TBH.

 

[wanton dwarf]

As good as the Nightingale hospitals look in the photos, there seems to be next to no medical equipment in them in the photos i have seen.

My fear is as this escalates, this is where they plan to send the worst affected that have the least chance of survival, and the youngest and fittest in society with better survival chances will be treated in existing hospitals.

Hope I am wrong, and hope they wont be needed at all.

Desperate times

People forget that Florence Nightingale infected patients because she didn't understand the mode of infection .. same for most surgeons of the time.

Only by lots people dying did they begin to understand the need to wash hands, wear PPE and isolate air bourne infections.

 

[hoff135]

the nightingale is very impressive. I’m not sure that the field hospital in Central Park is a fair comparison. It is something like 68 beds total out of the added 10,000 there will be.
No doubt New York is going to be hit very hard, it is the worlds crossing point. However the governer there is doing everything he can to make it look bad with gleefull assistance from the media. Contrast with California which also has a Democrat governor but is putting all that nonsense aside to just focus on the job at hand.
I think where America has done better is not doing the 80% pay for people to stay at home, all the take out restaurant are still open here so no where near as bad in the supermarkets. I think the UK is going to be very sluggish in getting people back to work after this.

Pretty amazing they can do this in a week i was expecting a few beds lined up on the floor but they have set up cubicles with several electrical sockets and air lines for every bed. Where on earth do they get all this from? Shame they arent as efficient filling potholes

 

[Steevo]

Pretty amazing they can do this in a week i was expecting a few beds lined up on the floor but they have set up cubicles with several electrical sockets and air lines for every bed. Where on earth do they get all this from? Shame they arent as efficient filling potholes

Better ask @Kevtherev and @Cab-over Pete - they've had that lot stored away in the back of the shed for years.

 

[Hindsight]

Bad news sells, or gets watched / listened to / viewed etc..

A lot of the media have an agenda, and they shouldn't; at the very least they should shelve it for now. Their attempts at leading questions, idiotic comparisons and, most irritatingly for me, the never-ending asking of Ministers 'Do you admit...?' FFS, an 'admission' has connotations of guilt or wrong-doing; they're trying to create news rather than report it. Disgusting individuals.

The BBC, in particular, had a chance to prove its worth in the current situation, it has failed utterly, merely continuing with its left-liberal b!tching and agenda. It will regret that later, and serve it right.

Dear Danllan - you rant at the BBC.

I appreciate I am maybe in the wrong camp as on balance I consider the BBC as a public service reasonable broadcaster. You may have listened to the two programmes this evening I am providing the links too. If not could you please find time to listen to them and maybe explain to me why these programmes are a left wing liberal agenda - because I struggle to recognize your BBC. Best wishes. Keep up with the statins and blood pressure pills or that will get you before Covid. Best wishes.

Inside Health
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000gzth

More or less.

BBC Radio 4 - More or Less, Supermarket stockpiling, A-level results and Covid-19 gender disparity

Is the coronavirus pandemic having a different impact on men and women?

www.bbc.co.uk

BBC Radio 4 - More or Less, Supermarket stockpiling, A-level results and Covid-19 gender disparity

Is the coronavirus pandemic having a different impact on men and women?

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[kill]

As good as the Nightingale hospitals look in the photos, there seems to be next to no medical equipment in them in the photos i have seen.

My fear is as this escalates, this is where they plan to send the worst affected that have the least chance of survival, and the youngest and fittest in society with better survival chances will be treated in existing hospitals.

Hope I am wrong, and hope they wont be needed at all.

Desperate times

However quickly and well the Nightingale hospital has been done I personally thought it just looks like a waiting room for the morgue. I personally would think the busiest people will be those boxing up

 

[Danllan]

Dear Danllan - you rant at the BBC.

I appreciate I am maybe in the wrong camp as on balance I consider the BBC as a public service reasonable broadcaster. You may have listened to the two programmes this evening I am providing the links too. If not could you please find time to listen to them and maybe explain to me why these programmes are a left wing liberal agenda - because I struggle to recognize your BBC. Best wishes. Keep up with the statins and blood pressure pills or that will get you before Covid. Best wishes.

Inside Health
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000gzth

More or less.

BBC Radio 4 - More or Less, Supermarket stockpiling, A-level results and Covid-19 gender disparity

Is the coronavirus pandemic having a different impact on men and women?

www.bbc.co.uk

BBC Radio 4 - More or Less, Supermarket stockpiling, A-level results and Covid-19 gender disparity

Is the coronavirus pandemic having a different impact on men and women?

www.bbc.co.uk

I'll try and find the time, but can't promise it - all the usual + Mrs Danllan doing silly overtime +home schooling , so I'm giving myself lots of small breaks rather than decent sized ones.

As for the BBC, nobody will claim that it has a political bias in every single thing it broadcasts. But... there is a definite one in its news service and, most clearly, in its key news team. Editorial decisions of what to 'examine' also reveal a lot about the institutional 'psyche'. And... just as bad in my view, a lot of them are self-glorifying egotists wanting to be the story - or part of it - or to create the story, rather than merely reporting it, as was the tradition in professional journalism.

Thanks for the health concern, I'm on no med's at all.

 

[Hindsight]

I'll try and find the time, but can't promise it - all the usual + Mrs Danllan doing silly overtime +home schooling , so I'm giving myself lots of small breaks rather than decent sized ones.

As for the BBC, nobody will claim that it has a political bias in every single thing it broadcasts. But... there is a definite one in its news service and, most clearly, in its key news team. Editorial decisions of what to 'examine' also reveal a lot about the institutional 'psyche'. And... just as bad in my view, a lot of them are self-glorifying egotists wanting to be the story - or part of it - or to create the story, rather than merely reporting it, as was the tradition in professional journalism.

Thanks for the health concern, I'm on no med's at all.

Hi, yes, I can appreciate that some of the news programmes and individual journalists can be quite prejudiced and follow what seems a political angle. I can think of one or two where I am sure we would be in agreement.

But my main concern is, in my opinion, the vast bulk of public service broadcasting is balanced, informative and appropriate. There can be taken a political angle but it is through the interviewees not necessarily the interviewer. Such as the items I highlighted in my post.

My concern thus is broader,in that there is a desire from some to destroy the BBC and thus I as a supporter of a goodly percentage of the output consider the baby will be thrown out with the bathwater, to satisfy the undoubted rage of the conservative right and the socialist left. I fear that you are a good example of those folk - no offence intended. And the quite majority (assuming I an in the majority - which I don ot know) will be drowned out.

Anyway we shall see. Keep safe. Regards.

 

[JP1]

I'm sure the army are doing great things at ExCel but the stock photos are showing shell scheme which would in all likelihood be put up by the incumbent venue contractors and they should be similarly praised

 

[Danllan]

... There can be taken a political angle but it is through the interviewees not necessarily the interviewer. Such as the items I highlighted in my post.

My concern thus is broader,in that there is a desire from some to destroy the BBC and thus I as a supporter of a goodly percentage of the output consider the baby will be thrown out with the bathwater, to satisfy the undoubted rage of the conservative right and the socialist left. I fear that you are a good example of those folk - no offence intended...

The interviewers and editorial staff choose the interviewees. Having watched / listened to a fair bit of news recently, the BBC have had a fair number of NHS staff on about their 'concerns' in re whatever. Those that have had worries have been shown / re-interviewed again and again; the few who have got through the screening process and yet haven't anything negative to say have only been broadcast once.

I don't know, but would be prepared to wager that most - maybe all? - of those expressing very negative views could, after a bit of research, be found to have an online record of political activism and they are taking the chance of easy hits against the Government now. I know this definitely applies to at least one nursing and one doctors' 'spokesperson'.

Right, back to the zoo...

However quickly and well the Nightingale hospital has been done I personally thought it just looks like a waiting room for the morgue. I personally would think the busiest people will be those boxing up☹

Ha! You should apply for a P|R job in the NHS...