Filling IBCs on back of tractor with water. Anyone have experience with Ferroni pto pumps?

[Turnip]

I'm looking for a simple way of filling an IBC that is transported on my 3pt forklift. Found this Ferroni pump

ML 20 30-30 PTO Roller Pump - Ferroni Srl

shop.ferroni-srl.com

Have family in Europe so not that worried about importing into UK, so was wondering if anyone has experience with them or can recommend alternative way.

 

[davidroberts30]

Something like that or A old sprayer pump

 

[Poorbuthappy]

I use one of these.

Wolf 2" Petrol Driven Water Pump | UKHS.tv Tools-To-Go

Wolf 2inch Petrol Driven Water Pump 5.5HP for Clean and Dirty Water. | Buy quality tools at low prices from Tools-to-Go at UKHS.tv

www.ukhs.tv

First 1 I found with Google so may be cheaper elsewhere.
Fills an ibc in about 5 mins.

@Jerry had one too, not sure if his has also been trouble free?

 

[Exfarmer]

What is your water source, a roller pump is very susceptible to sand and cannot pull unless primed.
Many different pumps for different jobs

 

[Turnip]

What is your water source, a roller pump is very susceptible to sand and cannot pull unless primed.
Many different pumps for different jobs

Source is a stream on our land. The Ferroni pump is advertised as self priming so hopefully no problems there. Hoses will have a filter on the inlet but take your comment on board.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Source is a stream on our land. The Ferroni pump is advertised as self priming so hopefully no problems there. Hoses will have a filter on the inlet but take your comment on board.

Whats the flow rate on that?
Uncle used to have something similar and it would have taken a good while to fill an ibc. That was several decades ago though so things may have moved on somewhat

 

[Bury the Trash]

I'm looking for a simple way of filling an IBC that is transported on my 3pt forklift. Found this Ferroni pump

ML 20 30-30 PTO Roller Pump - Ferroni Srl

shop.ferroni-srl.com

Have family in Europe so not that worried about importing into UK, so was wondering if anyone has experience with them or can recommend alternative way.

roller vane (like that) pumps are usually supplied by gravity , not for sucking up from a source and they shouldnt be run much without liquid ie lubricant.
needs very clean water as well.

 

[Turnip]

Whats the flow rate on that?
Uncle used to have something similar and it would have taken a good while to fill an ibc. That was several decades ago though so things may have moved on somewhat

so looking here

Ferroni ML 20 PTO Water Pump, 30 mm Fittings

Ferroni ML 20 PTO Water Pump - Self-priming

www.agrieuro.co.uk

The flow rate is stated as 180 lpm, IBC should take a couple (<6) of minutes.

 

[Bury the Trash]

so looking here

Ferroni ML 20 PTO Water Pump, 30 mm Fittings

Ferroni ML 20 PTO Water Pump - Self-priming

www.agrieuro.co.uk

The flow rate is stated as 180 lpm, IBC should take a couple (<6) of minutes.

the graph shows good head but.depends on the lift before the pump you will need .
and the rollers will wear and then suction is the first thing to suffer.
will need an appropriate filter on the end as grit or a stone will effect it

diaphragm pumps are better for sucking.

better to be using tractor diesel than petrol mind you

 

[spin cycle]

the graph shows good head but.depends on the lift before the pump you will need .
and the rollers will wear and then suction is the first thing to suffer.
will need an appropriate filter on the end as grit or a stone will effect it

diaphragm pumps are better for sucking.

better to be using tractor diesel than petrol mind you

sorry who's 'graph' is she european

 

[Jerry]

I use one of these.

Wolf 2" Petrol Driven Water Pump | UKHS.tv Tools-To-Go

Wolf 2inch Petrol Driven Water Pump 5.5HP for Clean and Dirty Water. | Buy quality tools at low prices from Tools-to-Go at UKHS.tv

www.ukhs.tv

First 1 I found with Google so may be cheaper elsewhere.
Fills an ibc in about 5 mins.

@Jerry had one too, not sure if his has also been trouble free?

Yep. Still running fine. Starts first pull normally.

 

[JP1]

Hyundai 35mm 1.5'' Petrol Clean Water Pump, 35m Total Head, 8m Lift, 250L/min Flow Rate, Lightweight | HYWP4300X

The HYWP4300X is a lightweight and portable 2-stroke petrol water pump from Hyundai, ideal for transferring clean or fresh water from garden ponds, pools, hot tubs, flooded areas or any drainage or irrigation need. Available now.

hyundaipowerequipment.co.uk

I have one of these

Brilliant

 

[Horn&corn]

Hydraulic Submersible Pump | HYDRASUB 30 | MP Pumps

HYDRASUB 30 is a compact, lightweight, hydraulically driven submersible pump with high flow capabilities.

www.gardnerdenver.com

How often are you filling and how quick do you want to do it? Put this on a arm on front of tractor and don’t need to leave the seat!

 

[Bury the Trash]

sorry who's 'graph' is she european

lol .
was just trying to explain how them roller pumps we used to have on the sprayers were slow to prime ,especially if totally dry.
The other pumps mentioned here are better/more suitable for a quicker job as theyre impeller /centrifugal pumps with a better pull or suck ( )
and will tolerate 'little bits' and bobs in the soup better.

 

[Turnip]

Hydraulic Submersible Pump | HYDRASUB 30 | MP Pumps

HYDRASUB 30 is a compact, lightweight, hydraulically driven submersible pump with high flow capabilities.

www.gardnerdenver.com

How often are you filling and how quick do you want to do it? Put this on a arm on front of tractor and don’t need to leave the seat!

Interesting pump, have reached out to them for a quote. This could be really practical as like you say I can drive the tractor in a ford and just lower the pump into the water from the seat.

 

[Scholsey]

Interesting pump, have reached out to them for a quote. This could be really practical as like you say I can drive the tractor in a ford and just lower the pump into the water from the seat.

guess on a price? £1000+ would be my guess.

 

[Turnip]

guess on a price? £1000+ would be my guess.

I'll post here if and when they get back to me. Think the main question will be if.

 

[Scholsey]

I'll post here if and when they get back to me. Think the main question will be if.

Presume it is a smaller version of a sump master/pusher pump on a slurry tanker?

 

[Wisconsonian]

Find an old sprayer PTO belt drive speed increaser centrifugal pump and mount that to the tractor with the plumbing so it won't drain the pump and the screen hanging just off the ground, you won't have to get out to fill if you can drive into the water.

For the low head you're talking about, an inverter powering an AC sump pump would work fine too, much cheaper than the hydraulic pump is going to be.

 

[Turnip]

Just got the quote for the hydraulic pump, only £1845, so I think I'll pass on that. I can buy 13 of the Ferroni pumps for that amount so can break a few and still be better off. Will have a look at old sprayer pumps as mentioned on here.