Firewood orders gone very quiet cos everyone else is doing it

Discussion in 'Rural Diversification' started by Chasingmytail, Feb 5, 2019.

  1. Hfd Cattle

    Hfd Cattle Member

    Location:
    Hereford
    Bought a processor about 10 yrs ago. Got fed up of cutting wood with chainsaw then splitting with an axe then chucking in trailer then tipping in yard then chucking in shed then carrying in the house......just to keep dad warm in the winter ! Best money we made out of processor was my lad going out on hire cutting wood for other people. It gave him a bit of cash in his Uni days. It's now sat in the yard doing virtually nothing. We have a huge amount of deadwood lying about the farm so I thought during the winter I would cut it up and sell it......needless to say wood is still lying on the floor and the processor still parked up......maybe in the summer ?
     
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  2. egbert

    egbert Member

    I sell a non-wood material in dumpys...and they are not all the same size by any means...Trading Standards Officer stand-by!
    standrd ones I'm using are -from memory, 850mm cubed, which is a long way short of a mt cubed.

    I've found putting logs in dumpys needs care to avoid them going mouldy.

    We're on cage/slatted bunkers and telehandler usable - bulk handled until they're chucked off the truck. (2 steps from truck limit, no garden paths!).
     
  3. renewablejohn

    renewablejohn Member

    Location:
    lancs
    Nothing like a dumpy bag of mouldy logs to bring the customer back to a quality product like I sell at a guaranteed moisture content of less than 20%.
     
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  4. Grassman

    Grassman Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    I use vented purpose made log bags. Trouble is they are not cheap and they hold substantially more than a builders bag.
     
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  5. oldoaktree

    oldoaktree Member

    Location:
    County Durham
    B33B82C1-1477-41C9-8834-A15495E0C1D4.jpeg B5E45064-37D1-4BB9-B977-105179550398.jpeg 786C772B-B0A3-4254-B8E7-2770B124A481.jpeg I’ve been in the Firewood job for about 12 years now .
    It’s quite this year with me too might be the mild winter.
    I sell my dumpy bags for £65 for 1 or £120 for 2 . Barrow bags £25 each. I’ve had a average winter so far . I’m not going to knock my prices down.
    I’ll often get a old customer coming back due to getting sh!t logs off someone for £5 or £10 less than me . I’ve got a fairly decent hard core of regular customers now.

    It’s brings in a bit of an income in the winter and ties into my work life quite nicely.

    I’ve a decent set up for chopping logs . Let the core wood dry out for about a year outside chop it up in the spring into the shed and it’s ready to go come the Autumn .
    Try to have 100-200 tons on site at all times.
     
  6. oldoaktree

    oldoaktree Member

    Location:
    County Durham
    You can get different sizes of dumpy bags I get 82x82x87 . About £2.25 each I think depending on how many you buy at the time
     
  7. A friend seems to be flat out all winter doing kiln dried logs at £75 for a builders bag full.


    It's cheaper to put the central heating on...
     
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  8. Lincs Lass

    Lincs Lass Member

    Location:
    north lincs
    I went into my arb tip site two weeks ago, as I went in two rolo skips came out, both were full of clean trees.
    Aperantly no market for it so it got dumped to put through the shredders.
    Came home with two loads on my trailer for free.
    He's got a mountain of 3yr old dry that he's been trying to shift but nobody wants it, local log boys don't want the hassle of cutting and splitting
     
  9. Cowcalf

    Cowcalf Member

    Location:
    North of Scotland
    what weight of cut logs would be in a builders bag presuming % moisture down to recommended rate
     
  10. Fordman

    Fordman Member

    Any recommend a good moisture meter
     
  11. Lincs Lass

    Lincs Lass Member

    Location:
    north lincs
    Lucky if it's 250kg, maybe less,only get 850kg of sand in them and logs don't lay straight
     
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  12. Cowcalf

    Cowcalf Member

    Location:
    North of Scotland
    would have thought there would be something in them at £260 approx. per ton even after allowing for weight loss with drying out
     
  13. Goweresque

    Goweresque Member

    Location:
    North Wilts
    I have weighed my bags of logs (which are 90x90x90 ones, so 3/4 of a cubic metre), and when tamped down (ie jiggled a bit on the pallet forks to settle them down) and filled to the top they weigh in at 240-250kg. Thats hardwood logs. The normal sand and gravel bags would be less, because I've got some of those I use for my own logs and they are shorter.
     
  14. oldoaktree

    oldoaktree Member

    Location:
    County Durham
    Depending on what size bag it is I’d guess it’s less than a 1m2 , £75 for kilin dried logs is pretty cheep these days. Should be about £90.
    The demand from wood chip , biomass boiler, power stations , kiln drying markets getting RHI has pushed the price of timber right up .
    One chap told me he would have to pay £70 a ton for hardwood if he wanted any it’s no worth doing logs at that price. No body would buy them if you priced it right.
     
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  15. oldoaktree

    oldoaktree Member

    Location:
    County Durham
    The mixed hard wood bags will be about the same as that , but I’ve some mainly oak bags that I can hardly move they are that heavy:)
     
  16. egbert

    egbert Member

    a very mild winter has depressed log sales, so there must be some long faces where firewood merchants have paid hard coin for round timber.
     
  17. oldoaktree

    oldoaktree Member

    Location:
    County Durham
    February was sh!t it’s picked up a bit these last 2 weeks, we never had many of those cold wet dark days when it gets dark about 2-00 pm .
     
  18. Christoph1945

    Christoph1945 Member

    Location:
    Cheshire
    Heard on the top deck.

    a...Shame about grandad.
    b...I know, just on Christmas.

    a...Cancer it was.
    b...I know, sad.

    a...He loved Christmas.
    b...I know, full of Christmas spirit he was.

    a...Always had all the Christmas trimmings.
    b...I know, lovely tree.

    a...He would trim the tree himself.
    b...I know, lovely it was.

    a...He always had a Christmas log.
    b...I know, it used to take six buckets of water to shift the bloody thing! ;)
     
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