First step in the fight back.

[Treg]

Whom are you speaking on behalf of?
How were this group elected?
Like minded how?

They are speaking as a group, all named with their types of farming enterprise listed & location, maybe the NFU needs to be as open.
It's not elected they speak as a collective voice.
All are livestock farmers who believe in the future of UK agriculture .

 

[colhonk]

Well, in one of the farming comics I read , something about rt, they had a consultation apparently and ALL of the respondents (about 15%) loved the new rulles that are comming. load of bull poo then.

 

[Sid]

Well, in one of the farming comics I read , something about rt, they had a consultation apparently and ALL of the respondents (about 15%) loved the new rulles that are comming. load of bull poo then.

I certainly didn't like the new rules.

A Physical mark on a cow that's robot milked is a complete waste of time IMHO

 

[Ashtree]

Oh dear…

 

[nick...]

Count me in.who else?
nick...

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Oh dear…

Would you care to expand?...

 

[Suppin Diesel]

Couldn't possibly be any worse than what we have at the moment. Count me in

 

[delilah]

Regrettably I think there is no chance of farmers significantly influencing the direction of the NFU. The have an agenda driven by non farming members that isn’t going to change

Then support a motion to the AGM that only active farmers be members.

With respect, there was a thread just like this a couple of months ago, and doubtless ones before that, everyone says yeah count me in and then it just fizzles out, i'm not sure what the point of such threads is tbh.

 

[No wot]

There seems to be plenty of farmers sick of RT and NFU.
So surely the first thing to do is form a farming group.
Surely some on here we can trust to oversee the first steps?

We just need a name and say a tenner joining fee.
See how many we can get signed up.
If we then got a good % of farmers on board we can then move forward.
If we could get more members than nfu, then we could goto the gov and say we represent uk farming, not the nfu.

Gives a proper negotiation power if all stand together.
Plenty have talked about helping fund legal challenges, etc
So let's see how many would join the group.
At the moment we are just lots if single voices, need to all speak together.

A members only part to this forum, where things could be voted on and discussed?

I wish you the best of luck and would love to tell RT to go take a walk myself, but the reality is it won't work as all the major buyers will stifle any attempt's to deregulate farm assurance and the super markets certainly will , it didn't work in the late 90s and certainly won't now , yes it's a b##ger

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Goo

I wish you the best of luck and would love to tell RT to go take a walk myself, but the reality is it won't work as all the major buyers will stifle any attempt's to deregulate farm assurance and the super markets certainly will , it didn't work in the late 90s and certainly won't now , yes it's a b##ger

There are some tricky elements but I think it is perfectly possible to sell a self assured
"British produce, British Standards" line to the market.

Everyone knows that it is the Union Flag that sells, not a pissy little tractor.

 

[No wot]

There are some tricky elements but I think it is perfectly possible to sell a self assured
"British produce, British Standards" line to the market.

Everyone knows that it is the Union Flag that sells, not a pissy little tractor.

You're quite right but there are some powerful forces to deal with , mainly the super markets who would undoubtedly up their game to make sure all their suppliers had an assurance paper trail for all their ingredients of their products

 

[tullah]

If the new club gets big membership number taking off quickly then it will be a force to be reckoned with and a ni..er
in the woodpile for the Non farming union to reckon with

 

[Bury the Trash]

Goo

I wish you the best of luck and would love to tell RT to go take a walk myself, but the reality is it won't work as all the major buyers will stifle any attempt's to deregulate farm assurance and the super markets certainly will , it didn't work in the late 90s and certainly won't now , yes it's a b##ger

nothing works with a negative attitude.

 

[No wot]

nothing works with a negative attitude.

As I said "I wish you the best of luck" crack on

 

[bobk]

David Handley made a start , what happened to him ?

 

[delilah]

David Handley made a start , what happened to him ?

As did the people who formed 'farm'. Wore themselves out with it I would imagine.

Really, really cannot see how it's easier to start from scratch than to reform the NFU.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

As did the people who formed 'farm'. Wore themselves out with it I would imagine.

Really, really cannot see how it's easier to start from scratch than to reform the NFU.

Because the NFU will not reform and as stated in another thread;

The NFU is not a Union. According to Wikipedia, it is registered as an 'association of employers' under the Trade Union and Labour Relations Act 1974.

Section 28(2) of that Act states

(2)In this Act, except so far as the context otherwise requires, " employers' association " means an organisation (whether permanent or temporary) which either—

(a)consists wholly or mainly of employers or individual proprietors of one or more descriptions and is an organisation whose principal purposes include the regulation of relations between employers of that description or those descriptions and workers or trade unions; or

(b)consists wholly or mainly of—

(i)constituent or affiliated organisations which fulfil the conditions specified in paragraph (a) above (or themselves consist wholly or mainly of constituent or affiliated organisations which fulfil those conditions), or

(ii)representatives of such constituent or affiliated organisations;

and in either case is an organisation whose principal purposes include the regulation of relations between employers and workers or between employers and trade unions, or include the regulation of relations between its constituent or affiliated organisations.

When you read that and think that Tesco etc are supposedly members of the NFU, it really makes you wonder who the NFU represent.

they are not a union and they no longer support the majority of farmers or have any wish to.

The important thing is to have a large group of farmers that can directly communicate with each other to join forces in the pursuit of specific aims.
I think the first aim is to circumvent the requirement to be RT.
There can obviously then be a discussion of other issues to influence or change.
It would only be through success and time that this 'group' may wish to become a union.

 

[thorpe]

I am amazed at how many still pay the NFU subs without even a thought of what the NFU do for them....or don't do in most cases .
A friend of mine farming 700 acres pays huge amount to the NFU and when questioned says "well we may need them one day "

we need them now but there feckin useless!

 

[delilah]

Really, really cannot see how it's easier to start from scratch than to reform the NFU.

Because the NFU will not reform and as stated in another thread;


they are not a union and they no longer support the majority of farmers or have any wish to.

The important thing is to have a large group of farmers that can directly communicate with each other to join forces in the pursuit of specific aims.
I think the first aim is to circumvent the requirement to be RT.
There can obviously then be a discussion of other issues to influence or change.
It would only be through success and time that this 'group' may wish to become a union.

For sure, I know all about the NFU and their mysterious 'affiliate' membership category, and i'm not denying for a second that they patently do not represent farmers and farmers alone.
If you think it will be easier to start a new organisation, than to get the NFU to pass a motion saying that only active farmers can be members, then crack on .

 

[Bury the Trash]

As I said "I wish you the best of luck" crack on

everyone needs to do it for its best chance.