Fishing lake

focussed

Member
Looking to put a commercial fishing lake into a wet corner of a arable field. It has running ditches and good access.

Does anyone have any advice or lessons learnt from doing it?

The season ticket system appeals to me as you know your regular customers and get a regular income.
 

focussed

Member
Not sure about planning.
Got a meeting with a fishing consultant next week so will learn more then. Most probably do though!

Keeping predators away is definitely a factor to consider. People must manage it though.
 

Hesston4860s

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Location
Nr Lincoln
Dad had one dug out in the early 2000's as part of a Foresty scheme, man from the council turned up few months later. He was on about planning permission and paying business rates on it, never did find out if planning was needed as it was done as part of the Foresty scheme. Business rates where payable on it tho if it had been let for day or season tickets, it's never been let out tho so never payed on it either.
 

Post Driver

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Location
South East
Keeping predators away is definitely a factor to consider. People must manage it though.

There is a lot of Otter fencing going up. Have you looked into how much Carp are for stocking? :eek:

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Dr. Alkathene

Member
Livestock Farmer
How big will it be and what do you plan to stock in it? A word of mouth syndicate might suit. Got to keep on top of winged, two legged and four legged preadators, oh and rats and rubbish. Good luck.
 

jonnieboy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North Yorkshire
Have a look round some of the better fisheries in your area
good car parking , or drive round the lake , clean toilets , maybe a café
This is what will attract anglers not some muddy hole in the far corner of a field , a lot who jumped on the band wagon a few years ago are struggling now as they have stood still and become run down rat infested dumps
A lot of money can be spent on fish and it would probably need 4-5 yrs to mature before stocking any fish in it . Then the cormorants ,otters , mink etc need keeping out as said above
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Anything over 10,000 cubic mtrs will need to comply with the reservoir acts. Best speak with EA first once there onboard the council can go and whistle. Maybe worth looking at irrigation lagoon or surge pool when talking to EA. Council came all high and mighty with me until they found out the surge pool (pond) was part of a flood prevention scheme with the blessing of EA.
 

focussed

Member
Thanks everyone for the comments, interestingly nobody was very keen! Meeting with consultant tomorrow.

- predators
- planning
- business rates
- rats
- rubbish
- time to mature

Those are the points I will raise with him.
 

Wastexprt

Member
BASIS
Anything over 10,000 cubic mtrs will need to comply with the reservoir acts. Best speak with EA first once there onboard the council can go and whistle. Maybe worth looking at irrigation lagoon or surge pool when talking to EA. Council came all high and mighty with me until they found out the surge pool (pond) was part of a flood prevention scheme with the blessing of EA.

I thought it was over 25,000 m3?

Correction
Phase 1 will apply only to reservoirs that are currently regulated, i.e. those with a capacity above 25,000m3 . Phase 2 may introduce a reduction in the statutory threshold to 10,000m3 and would therefore bring additional reservoirs under regulation.
When will the changes come in?
• Phase 1 was enacted on 30th July 2013
• Timescales for phase 2 are yet to be agreed
 
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Wastexprt

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BASIS

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
I thought it was over 25,000 m3?

Correction
Phase 1 will apply only to reservoirs that are currently regulated, i.e. those with a capacity above 25,000m3 . Phase 2 may introduce a reduction in the statutory threshold to 10,000m3 and would therefore bring additional reservoirs under regulation.
When will the changes come in?
• Phase 1 was enacted on 30th July 2013
• Timescales for phase 2 are yet to be agreed

Not to happy with this advice it does very much depend on where in the UK you are and what former use the pond was derived from.


http://www.britishdams.org/meetings_events/1-1_AshworthJ_ReservoirsScotlandAct2011.pdf

http://www.britishdams.org/assets/Comparison of reservoirs legislation in England Scotland Wales and NI 14022014.pdf

Also be aware of the Quarries regulations 1999 which covers lagoons created from sand, gravel, clay extraction etc all with a 10,000 m3 restriction.
 
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Wastexprt

Member
BASIS
Not to happy with this advice it does very much depend on where in the UK you are and what former use the pond was derived from.


http://www.britishdams.org/meetings_events/1-1_AshworthJ_ReservoirsScotlandAct2011.pdf

http://www.britishdams.org/assets/Comparison of reservoirs legislation in England Scotland Wales and NI 14022014.pdf

Also be aware of the Quarries regulations 1999 which covers lagoons created from sand, gravel, clay extraction etc all with a 10,000 m3 restriction.

Indeed, I got that from https://www.gov.uk/guidance/reservoirs-owner-and-operator-requirements it was mentioned in a meeting I had with a large moat owner in the south east who the EA were trying to say it was a Large Reservoir.

And the links you have posted show there is quite a difference.

It's very difficult to deal with some things without knowing the specifics :)
 
Location
somerset
As jonnie boy said look at other fishing lakes in the area we have commercial fishing lakes many things to look at planning, what type of fish/fishing and stocking of health checked fish whatever the breed. Day ticket or yearly membership, otters heron etc and what facities are needed possible FWAG funding PM if you need to know more
 

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