Fiskars KH and KHN Bodies

Ts 59

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Mixed Farmer
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Isle of Man
Sure I've been told you could buy a main "frame" (bit between legs) especially for match ploughing such as your plough has ,would be less prone to flex than the standard set up . From memory made by bamford who imported them for a while.
 

Boohoo

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Newtownabbey
Sure I've been told you could buy a main "frame" (bit between legs) especially for match ploughing such as your plough has ,would be less prone to flex than the standard set up . From memory made by bamford who imported them for a while.
The plate that's welded underneath the frame on mine certainly isn't Fiskars and the cut out in it for the depth wheel screw is rough around the edges. Hard to know what is original, what was added by an importer and what was modified later on.
From what I hear they were never popular here in Northern Ireland, most had Ransomes and then moved to Kverneland.
 

Cordiale

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If it's a match plough I'll have to try to get it back to what it should be. I've got rid of the third furrow but there's still plenty to do.
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I am certain it's a match plough. Someone has moved the front furrow width adjuster to the land wheel side, presumably to get another inch of cross shaft adjustment. Nice to see that as I had never thought about doing that. It also looks identical to mine with a cable operating it, probably has a fine toothed quadrant as well. The other thing that convinces me that it is a match plough, is the depth wheel cross shaft has a machined slot in it, so it can be moved in and out easily. I think you could actually position it between the two furrows when it was new.
 

Boohoo

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Location
Newtownabbey
I am certain it's a match plough. Someone has moved the front furrow width adjuster to the land wheel side, presumably to get another inch of cross shaft adjustment. Nice to see that as I had never thought about doing that. It also looks identical to mine with a cable operating it, probably has a fine toothed quadrant as well. The other thing that convinces me that it is a match plough, is the depth wheel cross shaft has a machined slot in it, so it can be moved in and out easily. I think you could actually position it between the two furrows when it was new.
This is from the auction site so not a great photo. Does this look like a fine toothed quadrant?
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Wolds Beef

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@Boohoo 1 Of the irish guys ploughed in 1984 with a fiskars at the match near Horncastle. His plough would be of that vintage if you could find out who and compare ploughs that would be one way of bringing it back to standard. He practised on our farm with the new zealander's Gordon Carter and Norman Wymer and one or two others. I still have the menu for the presentation dinner at the Golf Hotel as I sneaked in the back to see the presentation of the golden plough!!
WB
 

Ts 59

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Isle of Man
You're looks to go well, nice work. Have you got the proper match shares on? If so where did you get them? Or do you weld and reshape them?
You're looks to go well, nice work. Have you got the proper match shares on? If so where did you get them? Or do you weld and reshape them?
Yes match shares on it, came with them on ,I've just about worn them out. Previous owner had used commercial wing and point set up, went well enough.Match shares seem to have a lift on the wing, might help if set with a long leveling box an top link?
 

Cordiale

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I always found the match share to have poor penetration in anything but easy going, moor often than not I had to run the top link shorter than I wanted. I can only think that when these plough were at the height of their powers in the 70's/80's that the top men then had some means of pitch adjustment, although I don't recall ever seen any.
 

Ts 59

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Isle of Man
I always found the match share to have poor penetration in anything but easy going, moor often than not I had to run the top link shorter than I wanted. I can only think that when these plough were at the height of their powers in the 70's/80's that the top men then had some means of pitch adjustment, although I don't recall ever seen any.
Glad it's not just me then! It's how mine was at last match or two I used it in, Running light on the hard bits. I've probably only done a dozen matches over the last five years with it. Still learning with it. One of the last matches used it in I pulled front board in a bit for the finish, hoping it would compensate for having a little bit much left, seemed to turn a nicer furrow somehow... Any thoughts?
 

Cordiale

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Glad it's not just me then! It's how mine was at last match or two I used it in, Running light on the hard bits. I've probably only done a dozen matches over the last five years with it. Still learning with it. One of the last matches used it in I pulled front board in a bit for the finish, hoping it would compensate for having a little bit much left, seemed to turn a nicer furrow somehow... Any thoughts?
I can only suggest you play with board push, and arrive at a setting you are happy with. I can at some point tell you what length my stays are, if that helps. As regards shares try some of the sparex two piece ones from Malpas on line. Cut the wing down so the cut is about 8 inches to give a good hinge for the furrow turn on. You should find the points pull the plough into work as they are quite aggressive compared to the one piece share.
 
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i had a new one of them in the late 80s the main importer for ireland and the uk cork farm machinery was based near me the machined depth wheel and the fine tooted quadrant are the main giveaways. mine ended up in northern ireland after i sold it to thomas cochrane i still have a complete new set of match discs and skimmers for it
 

ANSLI

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Thank you. That confirms my suspicions about the modifications on mine and gives me a few ideas about what to do if I decide to go down the match plough road. Have you any idea what the name or model number of those ploughs is? I'm completely new to fiskars.
FISKARS KH 212: 2 - two corpus/ 12 - 12" width of one plough - 12 x 2,54 = 30,48 cm
FISKARS KH 214: 2 - two corpus/ 14 - 14" width of one plough - 14 x 2,54 = 35,56 cm
 

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