Fitness and well being
- Thread starter willy
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Only read a few posts and feel positively tired already! Exercise? Move back to small bales!
But, seriously, I had a couple of students here on a working holiday over the summer and both were vegetarians. I unkindly treated it as a joke at first but they did get me eating more veggies and I feel a lot better for it. I still like my meat though!
But, seriously, I had a couple of students here on a working holiday over the summer and both were vegetarians. I unkindly treated it as a joke at first but they did get me eating more veggies and I feel a lot better for it. I still like my meat though!
Chiropractors and Osteopaths are unqualified quacks - expensive at best and dangerous at worst ! A lot of what they do with clicks and cracks etc is no more than placebo
Stay well clear if them, my wife is a physio and that’s where you should go if you have back problems (Not my wife ! Just a qualified physio)
I had issues with my upper back in my 20’s after several accident wearing crash helmets and driving forward control machines like self prop sprayers etc - wasted a lot of money and had a lot of pain I didn’t need before a few sessions with a physio fixed it very easily with correct exercise etc
Stay well clear if them, my wife is a physio and that’s where you should go if you have back problems (Not my wife ! Just a qualified physio)
I had issues with my upper back in my 20’s after several accident wearing crash helmets and driving forward control machines like self prop sprayers etc - wasted a lot of money and had a lot of pain I didn’t need before a few sessions with a physio fixed it very easily with correct exercise etc
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Cannot 'like' that ^^^^ post enough. When I did my back (six weeks in hospital and surgery) the surgeon said if I went that route, they'd write me off and have nothing to do with me. Clive's post is absolutely 100% correct. These days they can do an MRI scan which will tell them a lot more than the old mylogram (sp?) did.
Clever Dic
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That is your experience. There are plenty of people who swear by their experience of them. I played a lot of rugby and a visit to my chiropractor on occasion made for a very swift improvement.
There are a lot about for it to be complete rubbish.
Ask them about their medical qualifications next time you are paying it how long they have to train for, then ask a physio the same questions
Placebo has been proved to work however so don’t doubt it can work for some
It’s an expensive sports massage really ! Sports massage can indeed help with muscle issues
But be careful - if your back is damaged it’s dangerous to have someone unqualified manipulating it
All to sports teams will use a team of phisio’s - can’t think that many use quack chiropractors though
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Aren't they recognised by the NHS these days? But then, so are placeboes! I swear some of the rubbish I get from my doctor is!
mrs mtx
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My sister is a qualified chiropractor and her full time degree was longer than a physios
everyone has their own opinion and knows good and bad of each industry @Clive I don’t think you can just slander a profession because your wife doesn’t like them My sister is a qualified chiropractor and her full time degree was longer than a physios
It’s not slander it’s the opinion of a professional and she’s certainly not alone with that opinion
Also as i posted my experience was not great despite seeing several and spending significant amounts with them over the years
(It’s also not slander as it’s written not spoken ! )
mrs mtx
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I’ve had rubbish experience with a physio in the past but thats it, an experience.The same as we’ve had awful gp and hospital care with our son but that doesn’t mean I can say they are all awful. You can’t write off a profession and question their qualification because of someone’s opinion or experience
People are free to waste their money however they wish I guess
I did say it can work for some - placebo does work as does a good sports massage. I feel it’s just a bit dishonest pretending there is more to it than that and taking a lot of money from people in pain
SilliamWhale
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How you getting on @willy ?
I just joined up again 2 weeks ago in my local college's gym, cheap for £12 month as can't get the weather for cycling.
Current programme is 20 mins on Concept 2 or Crosstrainer to get the heart rate going and then just a really simply session of squats (with weights), assisted pull ups and press ups as an all round workout. 45-50mins 3 times a week max and maybe one HiiT session a week too
Had a bad month, first I had man flu then got back on it then lost my best mate and have had a couple of weeks drinking too much and being melancholic. But funeral is on Saturday and I have vowed to get back on it (like a car bonnet) with a vengeance.
I have done the last 4 days and isn’t it depressing how quickly gains disappea
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SilliamWhale
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Had a bad month, first I had man flu then got back on it then lost my best mate and have had a couple of weeks drinking too much and being melancholic. But funeral is on Saturday and I have vowed to get back on it (like a car bonnet) with a vengeance.
I have done the last 4 days and isn’t it depressing how quickly and gains disappea
Oh crikey Im really sorry to hear that
Brian
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Couple of points on here that I agree/disagree with. I’ve had back back problems on and off for about 15 years. Used to visit a great osteopath who sorted me out when I needed it. She moved and away and I moved and changed jobs so next time I needed an osteopath tried one on a friends recommendation- she ruined me! Found another who sort of got me back straight. Roll on to 2016 and I was lifting a an ash bucket out of a biomass boiler - bang my back went big time. Literally couldn’t move for three days. Went to a new osteopathic clinic, they could see I was in a bad way and after several weeks got me moving but still not 100%. MRI showed a bulging disc and a missing lower vertebrae (not uncommon). Treatment prescribed was an inversion table and the osteopath by a leading back specialist.
So 2017 I’m finally moving ok and thought I need to prevent this happening again. By a serious of coincidences I came across a gym called Shirefit. They contacted the osteopath and found out my issues. Looked after me for the first few months and now just let me scale myself. People say CrossFit is a fad and leads to injuries but not in my experience.
I’m hooked now and haven’t looked back. I miss it when I can’t go and I’m more mobile and stronger than I’ve ever been. The social side is equally important. I could never darken the door of a “commercial gym” again. Mainly because I know I wouldn’t push myself as hard as I do at CrossFit or have the motivation or get the gains.
So 2017 I’m finally moving ok and thought I need to prevent this happening again. By a serious of coincidences I came across a gym called Shirefit. They contacted the osteopath and found out my issues. Looked after me for the first few months and now just let me scale myself. People say CrossFit is a fad and leads to injuries but not in my experience.
I’m hooked now and haven’t looked back. I miss it when I can’t go and I’m more mobile and stronger than I’ve ever been. The social side is equally important. I could never darken the door of a “commercial gym” again. Mainly because I know I wouldn’t push myself as hard as I do at CrossFit or have the motivation or get the gains.
I managed 6 weeks without a physio, was supposed to be making an appointment mid-late January for a check up, ended up having to book in for the 2 January, been better if it was the 21 December but holidays. was going to the gym once week with pt and planning to drop in any other evening on myself. shoulders are quite a bit better abd we were just starting to add a bit to the lower back building-I had asked him to introduce a bit as the shoulder problem is more or less gone.
about the 20 of December I got out of the seat and couldn't straighten, could the next moring but walking at an angle, no pain but funny to watch. still is but a dull pain has returned to above my hips and upper shoulders again. I think I have droped back into the stage of were by back was before physio.
what is the crossfit, im thinking of pilates seriously but some say it doesn't be as good as reported
about the 20 of December I got out of the seat and couldn't straighten, could the next moring but walking at an angle, no pain but funny to watch. still is but a dull pain has returned to above my hips and upper shoulders again. I think I have droped back into the stage of were by back was before physio.
what is the crossfit, im thinking of pilates seriously but some say it doesn't be as good as reported
I get light back pain from fencing, it’s only muscles tightening up, a good massage every few weeks keeps me going but doing a few minutes yoga everyday after work really helps, this works for me but I highly recommend it to everyone.
It stops you making that old man noise when you bend down
It stops you making that old man noise when you bend down
SilliamWhale
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I think the issue with Crossfit is the culture of training through an injury or pain. The culture is to push yourself mega hard every time and if you do that you can get injuries and also longer term demotivated. If its right for you then great. If you think about it if you pushing yourself to genuine extreme each time then something is going to give, sometime because presumably you are seeking to peak every time which is going to become impossible
Brian
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I do see people overdoing it at CrossFit and as you say you can only push so hard before something breaks. I tend to know my limits now on weightlifting and I’m not interested in becoming a weight lifting beast but I do push hard on the aerobic stuff. To be honest it’s hard to get injured doing burpees, wall balls, sit-ups and squats which feature a fair bit. My coach sets achievable goals for me, the last one was a rope climb which I’ve done. The next one is a handstand. I’ve also improved my 5km rowing time considerably over the last few months.
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On this back issue i have been to all 3 .
Osteopaths are recognised and controlled by the royal College of osteopaths I believe there is 4 year full time degree course to become one they are have had good experience with them in one visit I have also used chiropractors who I believe need much the same level of trianing and are again regulated , I dont think quite a tightly but again I have had good experience with but they tend to want to fix any issues in more than one visit , they (from my experience ) are more about booking you in for a course of treatment then fixing you in one visit so they tend to want maximise their return from you pain.
Physio again can help considerably, a lot if not all back pain is caused muscle issues , stretching ,and targeted exercise can make a massive difference to chronic or even one off back issues and Physios are the people to put you right in this way. Although the pain can get worse before it gets better!!!
Having suffered my share of back issues in the past I can honestly say that doing nothing is not the answer if you visit any or all of them keep working on it it will most likely get better with consistent work. Doctors don't seem to know much about backs and back pain in there defence they are extremely complex things and targeting exactly where a problem is can be either simple or a fiendishly complex series of issues each from tight tendons in your your legs to your neck can cause serious back pain all of which has to fixed before the next can be addressed
in terms of general back health , stretching and flexibility seems to be the answer modern life hunched in vehicles , over a PC etc is not good for backs in any way .
Osteopaths are recognised and controlled by the royal College of osteopaths I believe there is 4 year full time degree course to become one they are have had good experience with them in one visit I have also used chiropractors who I believe need much the same level of trianing and are again regulated , I dont think quite a tightly but again I have had good experience with but they tend to want to fix any issues in more than one visit , they (from my experience ) are more about booking you in for a course of treatment then fixing you in one visit so they tend to want maximise their return from you pain.
Physio again can help considerably, a lot if not all back pain is caused muscle issues , stretching ,and targeted exercise can make a massive difference to chronic or even one off back issues and Physios are the people to put you right in this way. Although the pain can get worse before it gets better!!!
Having suffered my share of back issues in the past I can honestly say that doing nothing is not the answer if you visit any or all of them keep working on it it will most likely get better with consistent work. Doctors don't seem to know much about backs and back pain in there defence they are extremely complex things and targeting exactly where a problem is can be either simple or a fiendishly complex series of issues each from tight tendons in your your legs to your neck can cause serious back pain all of which has to fixed before the next can be addressed
in terms of general back health , stretching and flexibility seems to be the answer modern life hunched in vehicles , over a PC etc is not good for backs in any way .