Fitting a Quadsaw to Teleporter

Bob lincs

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We recently brought a shop soiled Bomford multisaw to add to our wood cutting armoury. This week I have started making a hydraulic offset frame to mount it on our Teleporter. We need at least 1.5m offset and the ability to run it flat or upright . Few pics of our progress .
 

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ACEngineering

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Trying to decide if we need to hang some wafer weights on the opposite end to the head to counter balance it . Any thoughts anyone?

it wouldnt hurt to do that but be aware the rear main pivot pin on them jcbs is very narrow and the bose welded in the boom are very poor and often crackout with side load thrusts so that would be my main concern as i assume your going to extend that cutter quite a way so the loading on the rear boom pivot could be great if you was to jam the saw up cutting stuff buy the time you stopped the drive would be easy to damage the boom pivot or twist the boom neck.
 
I’d do some calculations to work it out, rather than relying on opinion from people on here. It’s a potentially lethal piece of kit and best done right.
DEFINITELY agree with above, we all have the chart for downrating per the angle of "out of level" whatever thats called these days, but, . We had a situation when getting into position to lift a beam on a roof, empty carriage/forkframe, no load, just getting into position, had to climb the front wheels up onto a 150 mm concrete plinth (one side at a time), but the boom needed to be out to get past the scaffolding. That was too much.

The chance that driving through a pothole would cause an upset with weight up in the air would give me the heebies

(Not that it wouldn't be a brilliant tool though)
 

Bob lincs

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it wouldnt hurt to do that but be aware the rear main pivot pin on them jcbs is very narrow and the bose welded in the boom are very poor and often crackout with side load thrusts so that would be my main concern as i assume your going to extend that cutter quite a way so the loading on the rear boom pivot could be great if you was to jam the saw up cutting stuff buy the time you stopped the drive would be easy to damage the boom pivot or twist the boom neck.
Twisting the boom neck is my main concern . We won’t need the boom extended that often or have the offset out to its max so should be ok .
 

Bob lincs

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Finnished pipework today and Teleporter runs it easily , I was a little worried as all the pipe work that came with the saw was 1” and our Teleporter is all 1/2” . I had a little play on a hedge earlier but forgot to get some pics , it’s bloody good though. I will try it again Tomorrow and see if I can upload a video.
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alomy75

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Finnished pipework today and Teleporter runs it easily , I was a little worried as all the pipe work that came with the saw was 1” and our Teleporter is all 1/2” . I had a little play on a hedge earlier but forgot to get some pics , it’s bloody good though. I will try it again Tomorrow and see if I can upload a video.View attachment 1015282View attachment 1015283View attachment 1015286
If you look at that bottom pic (above the mudguards) you can already see the twist it’s putting on the boom. I’m not sure what calcs you would have to do because to be perfect the weight would have to move in the opposite direction as you extend the saw out and vice versa which is daft but as you’ve a load of jd weights I think I’d wafer up the opposite side to equal the weight of the saw; you certainly can’t hurt doing that and can only help matters. The only downside is the additional all up weight on un-level ground.
 

Bob lincs

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If you look at that bottom pic (above the mudguards) you can already see the twist it’s putting on the boom. I’m not sure what calcs you would have to do because to be perfect the weight would have to move in the opposite direction as you extend the saw out and vice versa which is daft but as you’ve a load of jd weights I think I’d wafer up the opposite side to equal the weight of the saw; you certainly can’t hurt doing that and can only help matters. The only downside is the additional all up weight on un-level ground.
Bottom pin I well worn and is going to be replaced then will decide weather to counterbalance. As it is now it weighs about 450kg and full reach it doesn’t feel that heavy so may be possible to add abit to the other side .
 

ACEngineering

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Bottom pin I well worn and is going to be replaced then will decide weather to counterbalance. As it is now it weighs about 450kg and full reach it doesn’t feel that heavy so may be possible to add abit to the other side .

That is actually quite heavy when pushed out to the side, look on the machine load chart and see how quickly a load de rates as you boom out, if i'm reading a manitou 735 load chart right you loose 2350kgs lift capacity when fully extended, full extension is 3.9metres from the front wheels and the 3.5ton rating is roughly 1metre from the front wheels (500mm along the forks)

What ever that head weighs i bet it doubles when you got it pushed out. if the head weighs say 200kgs and when pushed out to the side is effectively putting 400kgs force on boom (roughly) then that's a bit like hanging a 7ft 6" 1.5 cube bucket off the one side of the qfit.

You need to make sure your boom pads are tight both ends, and add some weight the other side to even it out a bit and lighten it up the head side if that's possible.
 

ACEngineering

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Bottom pin I well worn and is going to be replaced then will decide weather to counterbalance. As it is now it weighs about 450kg and full reach it doesn’t feel that heavy so may be possible to add abit to the other side .

Actually what i dislike more is what would happen if the lower right hand locking pin was the break! there not very big dia pins on the qfit headstock and your head is a long way locking pins? Kind of reminding me of the accident with a 12ft wide man platform that was on a qfit floating pallet forks which were not latched on or tied back to stop them floating up! almost killed a guy when he was lifted up in the air then walked to the edge of platform and it all topped off to the ground:confused:
 

TS1

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That is a good job Bob.
I am hoping to make up a side shift for my hustler for next winter. I use it for feeding up a narrow passage on my JCB 520 -50 and at the minute it is too wide. Did you use mild steel wear plates on the inner sliding sleeve? How did you route the wire cables up the Mast?
(Watching with great interest.)
 

Bob lincs

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That is a good job Bob.
I am hoping to make up a side shift for my hustler for next winter. I use it for feeding up a narrow passage on my JCB 520 -50 and at the minute it is too wide. Did you use mild steel wear plates on the inner sliding sleeve? How did you route the wire cables up the Mast?
(Watching with great interest.)
Hi , yes used mild steel and plenty of grease . The electric cables and free flow return are wrapped together with spiral wrap and lay along the top of the boom , the bit where the boom goes in and out has ring either end and just hangs in a loop .
 

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