Fluke

[supercow]

Alright guys, firstly happy new year to everyone hope everyone has had a lovely time over the joyous period. Anyway, enough of all the positive chat. Lost a cow this morning, got it post mortemed as it was totally out of the blue, young healthy hiefer that was in calve. Came back positive for liver fluke and my vet has advised fluking the herd. One of our workers is off work due to having a mild heart attack 6 weeks ago, time is an issue just me and my 23 year old worker handling 230 cows and same again youngstock. I have heard of someone having a fluke issue in their cows and they pour the drench into the feed wagon and got a response of over a litre I’m
Led to believe. Has anyone ever done this? By the way, the cows are in great condition, I haven’t noticed a cow not cudding for a long time and they haven’t milked as well for a long time. I have already fluked the odd lean cow

 

[Beef farmer]

What product?

 

[Stewartry hill]

If milking cows check milk withdrawal

 

[frederick]

Alright guys, firstly happy new year to everyone hope everyone has had a lovely time over the joyous period. Anyway, enough of all the positive chat. Lost a cow this morning, got it post mortemed as it was totally out of the blue, young healthy hiefer that was in calve. Came back positive for liver fluke and my vet has advised fluking the herd. One of our workers is off work due to having a mild heart attack 6 weeks ago, time is an issue just me and my 23 year old worker handling 230 cows and same again youngstock. I have heard of someone having a fluke issue in their cows and they pour the drench into the feed wagon and got a response of over a litre I’m
Led to believe. Has anyone ever done this? By the way, the cows are in great condition, I haven’t noticed a cow not cudding for a long time and they haven’t milked as well for a long time. I have already fluked the odd lean cow

There is a product albex that can be mixed with food but in theory needs mixing on an individual basis to ensure each cow gets correct dose.

It has a 60 hour milk withhold. There is new testing going on that can find flukicide so ignoring milk withold would not be the brightest idea.

I am not sure there is any zero withdrawal treatments available.

 

[supercow]

What product?

WhAt product did the fella use? Not sure

 

[supercow]

There is a product albex that can be mixed with food but in theory needs mixing on an individual basis to ensure each cow gets correct dose.

It has a 60 hour milk withhold. There is new testing going on that can find flukicide so ignoring milk withold would not be the brightest idea.

I am not sure there is any zero withdrawal treatments available.

How are you meant to treat a milking cow that has fluke then? Dump 3 days worth of milk? Suppose I could do that, dose half the herd and keep out thier milk then dose the other half

 

[frederick]

How are you meant to treat a milking cow that has fluke then? Dump 3 days worth of milk? Suppose I could do that, dose half the herd and keep out thier milk then dose the other half

Dosing at drying off is the most sensible withdrawal option but may not cover all your risk periods adequately.

 

[it's not over]

I've used zanil. It used to have zero milk withdrawal but now 60 hrs. I done most in the parlour,10 a day,150 cows but the risk of injury has put me off. Last year I gave them 150% dose mixed in 200litres of water mixed in the tmr. Did it work.???

 

[westwards]

@supercow your milk recorder can test each cow for fluke and see how much of a problem it is.
If your heifer was heathy I would not suspect Liver Fluke, even if she had it, it would pull her well down before it would kill her.

 

[Beef farmer]

I've used zanil. It used to have zero milk withdrawal but now 60 hrs. I done most in the parlour,10 a day,150 cows but the risk of injury has put me off. Last year I gave them 150% dose mixed in 200litres of water mixed in the tmr. Did it work.???

Did it?

 

[it's not over]

Did it?

I'd say it did

 

[supercow]

@supercow your milk recorder can test each cow for fluke and see how much of a problem it is.
If your heifer was heathy I would not suspect Liver Fluke, even if she had it, it would pull her well down before it would kill her.

That’s very very interesting as well as extremely coincidental because our milk recorder is coming tomoro!! Il be getting her on the case, thanks @westwards i think that’s the most useful thing your said on here ha hahahahah !! The pm did say cysts on her liver probably caused by the fluke? Flukes a bugger like, a well conditioned hiefer this was, she would be the last cow I would have suspected of dying of fluke

 

[I thats it]

That’s very very interesting as well as extremely coincidental because our milk recorder is coming tomoro!! Il be getting her on the case, thanks @westwards i think that’s the most useful thing your said on here ha hahahahah !! The pm did say cysts on her liver probably caused by the fluke? Flukes a bugger like, a well conditioned hiefer this was, she would be the last cow I would have suspected of dying of fluke

Our experience with fluke in both cattle and sheep is that generally they're obviously in poor condition before they die and they'll be full of adult fluke but occasionally in sheep a good fit one will die and that can just be an overwhelming number of tiny immature fluke, but never had that with cattle

 

[sidjon]

We use zanil, 72 hour withdrawal now, best results drenching after cows have been in for 10 weeks or dose twice if bad , we're having a bad year with fluke this year, lost a in calf heifer and thought it was something else until PM

 

[farmerdan7618]

I did the herd 3 winters ago as was a particularly bad autumn for fluke, and milk test showed a problem.
Did 10% of the cows and dumped the milk, then the next 10% after withdrawal was up, until the whole herd was done. By the time I got to the last lot, the milk had gone up enough to be at the same as before starting, with 10% being dumped.
Product used was albex, drenched in a head yoke.

 

[it's not over]

I thought with the very dry hot summer fluke would of been less of an issue.

 

[Beef farmer]

I thought with the very dry hot summer fluke would of been less of an issue.

The rain in the back end sent a flush I think

 

[Milkcow365]

I know someone who dosed with zanil through the wagon just mixed it with 1000l of water job done, last year

 

[westwards]

Tell the old boy to dust down the old boilersuit and buy a new pair of wellies for him @supercow if you are short staffed.

 

[supercow]

Tell the old boy to dust down the old boilersuit and buy a new pair of wellies for him @supercow if you are short staffed.

Doesn’t get used very often think the mice have got to it!

I know someone who dosed with zanil through the wagon just mixed it with 1000l of water job done, last year

That’s the reply I was looking for!!