Foliar N on winter wheat

[ZXR17]

What products are being used and what timings and gains can be expected ? Thanks .

 

[Mr Charisma]

I'm using Omex protein plus with 5% SO 3 , it cost me around £150 / ton and will be applied at grain cheesy stage ,,,,,,, in theory , all fairly new to me as it's been a long time since most of our wheats are group 1

I'm not sure what's to be gained as I have little experience but I do know that the Skyfall I grew last year was lowish protein due to yield dilution of protein and as all the wheats look superb so far I want to be able to pull in a good milling premium as well as good yield ,

Probably all go tits up and have a awfull harvest and loose the hag berg

 

[Clive]

We will do 40kgs of N20 at cheese ripe

Circa week 2 July usually

 

[Sonoftheheir]

40L/Ha frontier multi- N here at cheesy ripe stage.

 

[Clive]

not sure its actually does add protein however - just fools the tests possibly, you can achieve much the same results applying it to the intake conveyor ...............................

 

[Steevo]

Will the dry weather have affected N uptake anyway?

 

[The walkmen]

I'm using Omex protein plus with 5% SO 3 , it cost me around £150 / ton and will be applied at grain cheesy stage ,,,,,,, in theory , all fairly new to me as it's been a long time since most of our wheats are group 1

I'm not sure what's to be gained as I have little experience but I do know that the Skyfall I grew last year was lowish protein due to yield dilution of protein and as all the wheats look superb so far I want to be able to pull in a good milling premium as well as good yield ,

Probably all go tits up and have a awfull harvest and loose the hag berg

Been quoted £170 For 6t anyone else had a current price?

 

[The walkmen]

Been quoted £170 For 6t anyone else had a current price?

For PP

 

[Brisel]

not sure its actually does add protein however - just fools the tests possibly, you can achieve much the same results applying it to the intake conveyor ...............................

This is why Warburtons have banned its use on their contracts.

 

[Clive]

Been quoted £170 For 6t anyone else had a current price?

£150 with sulphur PP

 

[Clive]

This is why Warburtons have banned its use on their contracts.

How do they police though ?

 

[teslacoils]

This is why Warburtons have banned its use on their contracts.

Wonder if they make sure non contracted grain hadn't had any on.......

 

[snarling bee]

We put on a home brew of about 14%N. at 220l ha giving 31kgN/ha.
Just put urea in water, mix for a day or 3, half price bought in stuff.

 

[Brisel]

How do they police though ?

Good question. I always made protein with 40kg/ha N as prilled AN at flag leaf so no bother and it was cheaper than buying a tanker load of Nufol anyway.

 

[Matt77]

Just started my first load of N18 tonight, pump has shat itself, bits of spring in the filter, unbelievable

 

[PSQ]

Just started my first load of N18 tonight, pump has shat itself, bits of spring in the filter, unbelievable

Have a word with @Andrew K

 

[Sonoftheheir]

not sure its actually does add protein however - just fools the tests possibly, you can achieve much the same results applying it to the intake conveyor ...............................

Are you talking about Multi-N?

 

[Clive]

Are you talking about Multi-N?

I’m talking about adding any N to wheat, melted urea will do the job

As I understand things test machinery doesn’t t actually measure protein, it looks at N qty and then makes assumptions about protein based on that

We have a NIR machine here On farm so I can test protein, I had a play once following a thread on here experimenting misting various amounts of N to grain samples and then testing - protein went up the more N you applied !

So does applying N at cheesy ripe actually increase protein or does it just fool testing ?

 

[Clive]

We put on a home brew of about 14%N. at 220l ha giving 31kgN/ha.
Just put urea in water, mix for a day or 3, half price bought in stuff.

Why only 14% ? We sometimes melt our own but it makes n20 by volume n18 by weight

 

[Big-Al]

Anyone applying N just now or is it to early yet skyfall?