Food Banks Whats Going On?

Bokey

Member
Mixed Farmer
They need to scrap planning permission for the next 5 years and lower building reg standards to allow non standard buildings they need to drastically slash public sector pensions they need to sack three quarters of the civil servants they need nationalise the energy sector again and cap prices for home use and scrap this bloody ideology of climate change tax and everything else will fall in line then stop all benefits
 
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BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
while immigration has been a part of the problem , it is only a very small part, it is the fact that single people with children get so much help in this direction.
I was shocked how much rent a young lady with 2 children was happy to pay for a 4 bed house I had , she did work part time but I do not believe her wages would have begun to cover the rent, 2 children in Nursery and running a car.
She was a superb tenant though and I was loathe to see her go
With over 300,000 excess a year arriving & now likely to far exceed that number where the hell do you imagine they all will live, unless more houses than people need are built then rents WILL continue to rise, to think otherwise is being naive!!
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
They need to scrap planning permission for the next 5 years and lower building reg standards to allow non standard buildings they need to drastically slash public sector pensions they need to sack three quarters of the civil servants they need nationalise the energy sector again and cap prices for home use and scrap this bloody ideology of climate change tax and everything else will fall in line
perhaps you should rethink what you post! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: It does not quite go together!
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
With over 300,000 excess a year arriving & now likely to far exceed that number where the hell do you imagine they all will live, unless more houses than people need are built then rents WILL continue to rise, to think otherwise is being naive!!
with 243,000 houses a year currently going up on average it is quite obvious we should have a large majority spare. Remember most of these economic migrants you talk about will be living frequently very densely often ten of more to a house.
All these figures of migrants arriving ignore this fact.
It is UK citizens living in such low density which is the cause of the issue, like my friend I quoted above who lives alone in their 3 bed property which in Bradford would probably house 10
 

Bokey

Member
Mixed Farmer
Sack civil servants, then take all those working in the energy industry into the civil service, and if you think that is going to make energy prices cheaper then my friend you were not alive before privatisation.
Your right I was born in 89 but why can't they take control to lower prices?
 

Bokey

Member
Mixed Farmer
I think the truth is it is complicated. Much relates to the relative shortage of housing and the rising costs of building new housing. Peoples expectations (driven by both TV advertising and content) have also changed faster than most incomes.
Demand is outstripping supply in the housing market simple solution scrap planning permission for the next 5 years everyone should have a right to a home
 

bluebell

Member
thats a problem that no one is allowed to talk about? until a tragedy happens and many die.Many many immigrants, in the black economy, off the councils radar? are living in third world condtions , it shows this say when a drone flies over east london and films many many sheds? huts? in back gardens etc, the same in most large towns and cities?
 

thesilentone

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
We have a huge contradiction is society, on one hand everything social costs a fortune, footy matches, concerts, theatre, hotels, B&B, train fares, mobiles, TV subscriptions etc,etc

Then add living, rent, council tax, energy, fuel. Then the odd one out Food !!

We pay what the majority can afford (hence the prices) however many cannot, but life has always been like that.

London crams itself with people, many fall into the 'less well off' category, however a much better quality of life could be on offer living somewhere else in the UK, where living costs are much less.

However, the less well off are also voters !!!!
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Is their anything good in society ? This reads all. Bit depressing so far !
Yes. Most people are kind and hard working. You just question policy where children don't get taught how to cook or budget, or where the idea of working more than 40 hours is appalling.

Govt is simply sticking plasters on top of plasters. And the ethos of houses as investments rather than in productivity is just bent.

How we can have 14 years compulsory education and have folk who can't cook basic meals, read or count is beyond me.
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
with 243,000 houses a year currently going up on average it is quite obvious we should have a large majority spare. Remember most of these economic migrants you talk about will be living frequently very densely often ten of more to a house.
All these figures of migrants arriving ignore this fact.
It is UK citizens living in such low density which is the cause of the issue, like my friend I quoted above who lives alone in their 3 bed property which in Bradford would probably house 10
Replace part of council tax with a bedroom tax surcharge and increase rent a room tax relief..... encourage under occupiers to downsize or take in lodgers... just so long as farm houses are exempt... :bag:
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
to make all people equal, in class and income, is pure communism, and a, it wouldn't work, and b, there would still be the haves and have nots. and c, politically unachievable.
For thousands of years, there have always been the 'rich' and 'poor', and, l am afraid to say, will never alter.
So we are left with todays 'class system' -for want of a better word. At the same time, peoples expectation of life, has altered, TV adverts etc, have created a easy come, easy go, way of life. Luxuries, are now normal, whereas 30+ yrs ago, they would have been luxuries.
And easy credit, has fuelled that expectation.
So those falling into poverty, may well have been led to believe, cheap credit, new things etc, were normal, and have found out, the hard way, they are not.
Our local village is full of 'incomers', many of which sold houses near/in London, or similar, for a huge amount, bought a much cheaper house here, outright, and invested the rest, for an income to live on. Council tax, energy etc, keep rising, and those 'investments' no longer provide an income, so they fall into the 'hard times' category.
Food banks, concern me a bit, from the angle that, those people that use them, cannot be properly 'vetted', law doesn't allow that. So, people using them, increase, and that increase, is used as political ammunition, and that is wrong, false claims. Recently saw an advert for pet food banks, don't agree with that.
This state of affairs, will not alter much, until people learn the value of money again, and ditch the easy come, easy go attitude, that goes with easy credit, that isn't cheap. Much of that, needs to be taught in schools.
The above is a generalisation, fully accept there are the genuine needy.
 

bluebell

Member
som farmer a very good post, the Govt. is always asked for more money, more money all the time? its not the Govts, money its all the hard working publics, that fund this or that Govt, magic money tree, example the govt. made a statment that they will give, fund or what, Ukraine £300 million, from where? we were last year paying interest on the UKs national debt of over £60 billion a year?
 

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