Food Banks Whats Going On?

Bongodog

Member
The benefits system is a disaster how much would you be paying him if you don't mind me asking?
I wanted someone (preferably recently retired with time on their hands looking for a bit extra to finance a nice holiday or even with the supposed cost of living crisis to keep the heating on) to work approx 8 hours a week for £15 an hour. No experience necessary and very undemanding. Employee can decline work if they wish
 

Bongodog

Member
Yes. Most people are kind and hard working. You just question policy where children don't get taught how to cook or budget, or where the idea of working more than 40 hours is appalling.

Govt is simply sticking plasters on top of plasters. And the ethos of houses as investments rather than in productivity is just bent.

How we can have 14 years compulsory education and have folk who can't cook basic meals, read or count is beyond me.

The can't cook meals thing is easy:

before my time at school they taught cookery - how to make a shepherds pie, apple tart etc, by my time it was home economics, it was by them for boys as well as girls, we sat in a fully equipped cookery classroom but barely turned an oven on. Later it became food and nutrition or food, and technology, all the emphasis on analysing the ingredients and nothign about creating the dish.
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
I cannot possibly like this enough.

Get education fixed and the rest of the problems will largely fix themselves.

What proportion of people in jail or living on benefits in deprived areas left school with a list of qualifications?

Give young people the skills that employers want and everyone will share the prosperity.
daughter is a reception teacher, each new intake, is less independent, dummies, nappies and 'comfort' toys, are getting more common. She is quite 'firm' with some parents, but is highly regarded by most.
Have a cousin, whose wife was still feeding her 6 yr old daughter, just couldn't cope with weaning her off, completely. Must admit, she looked, and still does, incredibly healthy, unlike her older brother, who doesn't, and was weaned off early.
 

Bokey

Member
Mixed Farmer
When you get to 13 say they could tell you what your options are and train ex amounts of welders, lorry drivers, cooks, assembly line workers, teachers, plumbers, electrians. Etc but the cost of housing, taxation,energy the poor buggers don't stand much chance and its only getting worse
 

Bokey

Member
Mixed Farmer
It's not ridiculous. Read "Gordon is a Moron". Deliberate policy by the Blair (and later Brown) administration to create a huge voter pool entirely dependent on the state. That way the Labour party would never lose power. Hence their love of importing unskilled migrants.
The more you have to rely on the state the more control they have over us
 
I agree private rents are ridiculous. My SIL tiny tiny 2 bed house goes in at £850pm plus bills. Unless 2 people are sharing cant see how a low to mid single person could afford this. Listening the radio yesterday someone said that a man with children on zero hours doing a bar job needs to use one but he could easily find another full time job now so much work around. You cant do bar work with a family. Sometimes I think people expect to turn up at any job and let society fill in the gaps. Then moan they cant afford to live. You have to up your game. No reason why someone couldnt do 2 jobs a few days a week. If I remember my own father did this when we were growing up before the benefits system came in.
 
I'm guna get some stick for this comment but the ageing population is bleeding this country dry aswell
agree, tickles the ell out of me why plenty of rich retired get free swim, free bus etc. Family member just wont spend his money uses all the 'free' services he can when he can pay its not an issue and seeing that he spends thousands on holidays makes the whole thing ridiculous. Got too many retired at 55/60 making out they grafted so hard (I doubt it) going to be retired longer than they ever worked on £3k a month living in 5 bedroom housing. See it all the time as we do groundworks for extensions on these houses because they are bored and want a sun lounge/sewing room. Blocking the housing system and have a cheek then to moan about the heating bills and want all the freebies. I find it amazing the wealth of these retired and the brand new cars, 5 bed houses and expect to have the income for another 40 years. Not sustainable. I dread to think the income of many retired if both had final salary pensions could be in excess of £6k per month,
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
That obviously is not the case, if there is an over supply of houses rents are bound to fall as landlords start chasing tenants.
This can only get worse when the war affected Ukrainian husbands with surly teenage sons start turning up to join their wives in some old dears back bedroom, this will inevitably create a further need for even more houses.
We haven't even started to see the 2 million or so Hong Kong residents the Tories have given permission to come here yet, if you've got spare cash buy a house prices are only going to go one way!
But you are not in a genuine free market. Take away housing benefit and landlords would have 2 options, reduce rent to sweet f a or sell up
the result would be chaos in the housing market, but as in such situations while many landlords would be impoverished , most young people would rejoice as they could at last afford a home. The old people would moan that they had lost all the value of the property they sit in , but in truth have lost nothing.
the ones I would feel sorry for would be all those trapped in a £250K + mortgage on a house worth £100K who arew counting on an inheritance to pay it off
the market would sort itself and you would find the number of one parent families would drop considerably
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
When you get to 13 say they could tell you what your options are and train ex amounts of welders, lorry drivers, cooks, assembly line workers, teachers, plumbers, electrians. Etc but the cost of housing, taxation,energy the poor buggers don't stand much chance and its only getting worse
Just howe it used to be, my state school prepared most kids to go into the next door railway works, 5 years aftewr I left it closed!
 

Bokey

Member
Mixed Farmer
But you are not in a genuine free market. Take away housing benefit and landlords would have 2 options, reduce rent to sweet f a or sell up
the result would be chaos in the housing market, but as in such situations while many landlords would be impoverished , most young people would rejoice as they could at last afford a home. The old people would moan that they had lost all the value of the property they sit in , but in truth have lost nothing.
the ones I would feel sorry for would be all those trapped in a £250K + mortgage on a house worth £100K who arew counting on an inheritance to pay it off
the market would sort itself and you would find the number of one parent families would drop considerably
The banks are to blame aswel the poor buggers who find themselves in negative equity should be allowed to renegotiate their terms on the true price of their property not an inflated made up figure
 

Bokey

Member
Mixed Farmer
As employees they are entitled to workplace pensions, to which they did contribute monthly to their pension, from salary
Ever tried teaching & keeping order of 35 children, 5 days a week ?
It's a hard and educated job and they deserve to be paid accordingly throughout their working career I don't dispute that but it should be everyone's own responsibility to ensure their own financial security in retirement
 

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