Food Prices

Daniel

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Exactly, broilers need plenty of heat energy and electricity too,. 25% price increase isnt enough yet.
The price is slow at going up as buyers say many growers have preexisting feed contracts running.

Many growers will have some feed contracts cheaper than spot,. But what has that to do with liveweight price, its the farmers gamble and his are the rewards/losses
This is my argument, if a farmer gambles correctly on his feed buying then he should profit, it’s not for the processor to help themselves to. If the farmer guesses wrong he doesn’t get an extra payment to cover his loss.
 
It did make me laugh that the Govt have just appointed the former Chief Executive of JustEat to be their new Cost of Living Tsar! 😂
Me too, the guy who has made his money by persuading folk to become ultra lazy and pay for crap to be delivered from relatively expensive takeaway kitchens instead of doing 20 mins of prep and cooking with fresh ingredients 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
N.B. Not all takeaways produce crap but many seem to ….

Jack Munroe would have been a better choice …
 
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Yale

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Livestock Farmer
Me too, the guy who has made his money by persuading folk to become ultra lazy and pay for crap to be delivered from relatively expensive takeaway kitchens instead of doing 20 mins of prep and cooking with fresh ingredients 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

N.B. Not all takeaways produce crap but many seem to ….
I bet the amount of healthy take away food would be in the small single digit percentage.

There should be 20% VAT on all delivered ready cooked food!
 

chickens and wheat

Member
Mixed Farmer
This is my argument, if a farmer gambles correctly on his feed buying then he should profit, it’s not for the processor to help themselves to. If the farmer guesses wrong he doesn’t get an extra payment to cover his loss.
yes buyers are saying price doesnt have to go up in a rush as many growers have feed bought forward. Doesnt reward our gamble and doesnt help out those who didnt gamble.

if we get caught when feed price stars falling liveweight price drops will not be so staggered
 

Chae1

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Location
Aberdeenshire
Me too, the guy who has made his money by persuading folk to become ultra lazy and pay for crap to be delivered from relatively expensive takeaway kitchens instead of doing 20 mins of prep and cooking with fresh ingredients 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

N.B. Not all takeaways produce crap but many seem to ….

Don't think he was twisting there arms round there back to persuade them.
 

Humble Village Farmer

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BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
This is my argument, if a farmer gambles correctly on his feed buying then he should profit, it’s not for the processor to help themselves to. If the farmer guesses wrong he doesn’t get an extra payment to cover his loss.
The people who supply us though and those that buy, think it's their money and not ours. They have been so efficient at removing any surplus cash from farming, that suddenly farming is looking more than a little shaky.
 
one thing very easily over looked regarding the 'cost of food' (especially by farmers) is the overhead costs of servicing that food sale, in particular property costs.
For many food businesses, unfortunately this will be the killer for them in the coming months, not the actual price of the food.
Low interest rates have fuelled a property price boom, landlords seize the opportunist rental opportunies. Even in the fast food/catering sector, these costs have ultimately been carried by the consumer
Classic example I know of is the cost of a burger van pitch at Glastonbury. £25k for the week!!!
I was recently asked for 25% share of takings to sell ice cream at an event . I told them it was too much. The response was just to charge the custome more.
Sadly, the cost of food isn't just about the food


Property contracts are not priced on a month by month or even year by year basis.

Usually 5 year term with a price/break in year 3.

In the short term prices will remain the same with progression over time.
 
Interesting perspective. I buy bottled water because I prefer the taste of it to tap water and like to drink it with my dinner in an evening. Usually sparkling but do take still too, on occasions. It's a load cheaper, healthier and less environmentally damaging than beer, cider, wine and spirits too - better to cut that pointless spending out first, surely?

Bottled water is appalling for the environment. What is wrong with the stuff from the tap?
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
Hope it’s not Dasina or Aquafina because they were forced to admit that their water was straight out of the tap with some added processing. I’m not sure your comparison is valid, beer, cider etc aren’t just water. If you’re happy drinking bottled water that’s for you to muse over, I was just using it as an example of pointless spending. We’re under a tsunami of pointless spending and resource use currently. It won’t change a lot even with everything that’s going on…
Issue I have with bottled water, is mainly the bottle and embedded energy in it's production, plus the energy in the delivery etc all for something that is available from the tap, or for a lot on here, from a spring.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 5 2.7%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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