footpath width

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
12v or 240 ?

9000v... mains powered fencer, it's the way forward. Make sure there is a sign or 3 pointing this out ;)

I have had some success with wandering dogs this time with strategically positioned 2/3 strand electric fences, and I will be expanding the network and going to a mains fence next year! Lots of signs warning dog owners... As I recall, it is a legal requirement near RoW, but iin fact it is a good deterrent.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
This winter the footpaths across my wheat fields are getting very wide, they look a bit like this:
https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/farmer-counts-cost-after-walkers-stray-from-footpath
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(picture taken from farmers weekly website, all rights reserved etc by them)
maybe mine are not that wide (yet), but way wider than a normal year.
Footpaths are such a nightmare in so many ways, especially when they go diagonally across arable ground, like ours do.
What are you suppose to do about it?
Cos it's wet, they walk on the edge of the path on the wheat, forever making it wider and wider.

Lots of questions.
How many fields have footpaths, have you tried to get them moved and why not fence them off?

If you can't move them I think your only option is to fence them and perhaps put signs up and patrol them a bit to make sure locals get the message.
Is there a local facebook group or something that you could post why its a problem to? Perhaps get some busybody locals on side and they'll patrol it for you.
 

D14

Member
We have signs up clearly saying the crops are treated with chemicals as and when required. Stick to the clearly marked footpaths.

It works.
 

Scrapjockey

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Showery S.E. IRL
I'm glad we don't have PROW's across farms here (south east Ireland) as we get enough grief with hunting tourists.
A couple of posts claimed that the farmers must have removed the hedges alongside the paths,but as stated they were the shortest route to walk from A to B so would have cut straight across fields.
The roads however would have often had to go around wet areas or avoid steep banks that would cause problems for the carthorses.
Also many of the walkers wouldn't know what winter cereals look like.
Those with rights and a sense of entitlement don't usually have any sense.
 

Jon 3085

Member
Location
Worcester, UK
4 people wide now🙄
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Phil P

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North West
We’ve put some wood chip down on a few of the footpaths back in January to try and dry them up and keep people on them. It’s not a cheap job but does seem to have helped, although I watched a woman walking her dog down the wheat the other day and she was actually pulling the dog off the footpath and into the crop🤬 I couldn’t believe what I was watching! The dog actually had more sense than the woman🤦‍♂️.
You can see by the white bits how far the path was starting to spread!
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I use to think it was just a minority that have no respect for the countryside but I’m beginning to think it’s more like 60% of the population are just plain arrogant, have no respect for others property and don’t deserve access to the countryside. If this is going to be public money for public goods they can keep it!
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
That's as maybe, but the farmer in the past decided to pull up the grass path, fill in the ditch and grub up the hedge. Very unlikely that the path went across a field in the past!
ELMS needs to solve this issue by permissive access and government need to make it easier to divert existing cross field prows. So long as the alternative route provides a better Public Good, i cant see many objections (apart from Ramblers, who often are pragmatic if the new access is better than the existing
a lot of footpaths were the routes used by the rural postmen, and they did go across the middle of a field, if that was the quickest route to the next farm or delivery
 

Jon 3085

Member
Location
Worcester, UK
You need a bit of poultry poop off your neighbour.;)

Fields by Hag...got serious slurry treatment in December. Apparently pooch owners didn’t like green sludge:rolleyes: That steadied the flow of people for a while, but now they drive and park instead.:facepalm:
The next field had pig muck spread on it for a week,some kept to the path,a lot just walked in the surrounding wheat fields🙄when I ploughed the field even the seagulls and crows couldn’t settle.At least we won’t need any bird scarers when I plant it😂
 

robs1

Member
That's as maybe, but the farmer in the past decided to pull up the grass path, fill in the ditch and grub up the hedge. Very unlikely that the path went across a field in the past!
ELMS needs to solve this issue by permissive access and government need to make it easier to divert existing cross field prows. So long as the alternative route provides a better Public Good, i cant see many objections (apart from Ramblers, who often are pragmatic if the new access is better than the existing
Every single path we have cross fields apart from one and they would have to swim the river if that one did, we have maps going back to 1700 and fields haven't changed, the paths go A to B the fields are shaped other reasons
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Having trouble with the definitive map here. On the map its down as a footpath but it was put in as a road in the Enclosure Act so should be a BOAT. Because of this error locked gates have been erected and access denied. Council have refused to remove gates as they say they only have a duty on footpath access.
 

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