Monty
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- Location
- Nantwich, Cheshire
Think you need to diversify and set up a toll booth on your farm. £5 per walker/rambler and £10 for horses and cyclists. You could set it up next to your ATM machine
Footpaths and Farmyards.
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Think you need to diversify and set up a toll booth on your farm. £5 per walker/rambler and £10 for horses and cyclists. You could set it up next to your ATM machine
Old McDonald
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- Location
- Harray, Orkney
The links I gave disagree with you, so please, for the sake of your kids, take more care.
SilliamWhale
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They dont disagree with me. They say uv light doesnt destroy it alone and where the helll did i say that?
I said that the likely load from a person touching a gate for 3 seconds compounded it with it being outside, compounded with the fact that hand to hand infection via an object is way lower than ingestion of sneezes/ coughs in a confined space, compounded by social distancing, compounded with uv is likely to tip the balance to be extremely minor chance of contraction to say little of the amount of viral load is likely to pass via this in the first place. So its nothing to do with me not taking care of my kids thankyou - we are doing all the appropriate measures recommended but f**k me I have walked on a footpath with them this week is that more irresponsible than me going to the shop for food? No, it is way less.
Have you thought where this is going to end? You do know there will not be "one last case" and everything opens up again dont you? I suppose you want the total lockdown to last 12 months to be certain and totally "risk free"? Its not going to happen. The worry about transmission risk from the public touching farm gates has the whiff of the salem witch trials.
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averageguy54
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- Location
- New Brunswick, Canada
Steam is hot enough to kill it so if you had a portable source of steam you'd be all set.
Old McDonald
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- Location
- Harray, Orkney
Notwithstanding your post today, those remarks certainly read as if you are promoting normal sunshine derived UV as being a factor in killing the virus quickly. Having said that, I did not intend to annoy you, I merely asked you to be more careful given the links I gave about the type of UV needed and the ability of the virus to remain on surfaces for a protracted time. I even drew your specific attention to the paragraph stating that a particular type of UV is required, but carry on believing what you wish, I now know nothing will change your mind.
I have thought about where this is going to end, and particularly for my wife and I. I am 76 in four weeks and my wife is 5 years and two weeks younger. Following a heart valve replacement and triple artery bypass I am told my immune system is “not quite” back to normal. We went into self-imposed quarantine just over 3 weeks ago because of this and intend to remain so as long as possible. Past experiences of weather enforced isolations mean we know we will be OK for about 3 months without any problem. We have a grocery top-up delivery arranged for next week to try and prolong this timeframe. It will be placed inside a van at about 30m from the house and removed in due course.
How wrong you are about me wanting a prolonged lockdown. It was a sickening blow when they were introduced. We had accepted an offer for the farm (allowing us to retire) from a couple who then returned to NZ and the lawyers were in contact arranging the legal necessities, but the international lockdowns occurred before contracts were exchanged. Understandably the offer was withdrawn because of the uncertainty of when or even if they could complete. We had already done preliminary sorting of what and what not to take with us and arranged viewings of some possible retirement houses on the Island of Pico in the Azores. We have had to postpone all our plans for an indeterminate period as well as our hopes of being able to retire. A few more days without the global movement restrictions and we would have been under contract. We already had a caretaker lined up if that was required until the new owner took possession.
Another olive harvest is the last thing I want to have to undertake. I could not complete the last one and the next will be bigger. I have always dreaded being in the situation of watching my farm deteriorate because I was unable to manage it properly. It looks as if it could happen if the lockdowns continue. So, no I do not want the lockdown to last 12 months.
OK, well leaving gate touching to one side......what about the health and safety implications of Joe Public wandering though farmyards ? Anyone come across a footpath through a builders merchants yard ? Any footpaths through the Honda car factory at Swindon ?
In most cases a diversion would be more scenic than the view of modern farm buildings anyway ?
I just can't think of one good reason to keep footpaths through farmyards.
In most cases a diversion would be more scenic than the view of modern farm buildings anyway ?
I just can't think of one good reason to keep footpaths through farmyards.
- Location
- Ceredigion
If you talk about it they will come
- Location
- Near Beeston Castle
You won’t find one through a builders yard or factory because they will have coughed up to get them shifted.
Chap that bought my farm has paid to get the footpath there shifted, money well spent too. (I was too stingey)
rusty
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- Location
- Buxton Derbyshire
We had a busy footpath through middle of our busy farmyard (300 dairy cows). After Foot and mouth we managed to get it diverted to the fields running parallel to the farm yard. Was bloody painful experience. Took about 3 years and cost us around 2k.
Doing it for the kids
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you are of course correct but until the parliament act’s are changed to down grade the status of FP’s we are all sadly stuck with this situation
- Location
- Portsmouth
I would happily pay that much now if I could!
Our council are not accepting applications for diversions
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- Location
- Near Beeston Castle
Our Council said exactly the same. You don’t have to wait for them though, you apply directly to the Secretary of State and they have to deal with it immediately. Pisses them off and they can be awkward in return but it’s how my friend did it on the advice of his solicitor.
Money talks. A well off couple have bought the house on some land we rent and paid to move the footpath that went through his paddock and yard , and through our field .
I’m in discussions with the footpath officer about the one that goes through our farmyard, as people have started coming up our private lane past the house, rather than through the yard, mainly because they can’t get their dogs over the styles. There’s an obvious solution, but neither myself or I expect my landlords , want to pay over £3k for the privilege.
I’m in discussions with the footpath officer about the one that goes through our farmyard, as people have started coming up our private lane past the house, rather than through the yard, mainly because they can’t get their dogs over the styles. There’s an obvious solution, but neither myself or I expect my landlords , want to pay over £3k for the privilege.
Gosh.
I am trying to recall the actual legislation wording that allows a diversion to take place. I am surprised a Council can unilaterally decide it won't deal with a Diversion Order application They will do their own in-house Orders quickly enough!
However, the cost of challenging that decision would be crippling I suspect. Would need to speak with a real expert like Niall Blackie first...
Good Man.
Sometimes the sheer cost of being awkward will mitigate against the Council being bolshie...
kiwi pom
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- Location
- canterbury NZ
Its no doubt a major hassle and shouldn't cost as much as it does but I think paying 5 grand to have a footpath through my yard diverted would be very near the top of my to do list.
What would p*ss me off would be paying that much and still not getting it moved.
Once moved I'd probably spend a bit more having proper signs made so walkers were in no doubt it had been moved.
- Location
- Ceredigion
They wanted nearly £2000 just to turn ours away from my front door
You can always appeal to the better nature of footpath users by identifying your own diversion with the sign:
''For privacy and health and safety reasons, please follow this diversion if you wish to avoid the busy farm steading.''
You might alter the ''farm steading'' bit, depending on local nomenclature, but no reasonable person will object. And those recreational users (which is what almost all walkers are nowadays), who still insist on marching through your yard, can be earmarked for future reprisal. Or just shot.
''For privacy and health and safety reasons, please follow this diversion if you wish to avoid the busy farm steading.''
You might alter the ''farm steading'' bit, depending on local nomenclature, but no reasonable person will object. And those recreational users (which is what almost all walkers are nowadays), who still insist on marching through your yard, can be earmarked for future reprisal. Or just shot.
These ancient laws and rights that apply to Foothpaths should have a Use by Date. That date is long gone the same as every other activity on Land have changed and adapted.
Doing it for the kids
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agreed but when they made these laws up, probably in 18 something I guess they didn’t think about it then!