For all the brexit doom mongers

Walterp

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Location
Pembrokeshire
I also wonder if we ought to turn our TV's and radio's off and/or stop reading the newspapers (esp the Independent!) every time something about Brexit is mentioned.

How on earth our politicians can do anything properly when they are so over-scrutinised, I have no idea!

As a (former) avid Radio 4 listener, I have now switched to listening to Absolute radio, rather than listen to the drivel that is on the Today program and PM programs. These reporters should be utterly ashamed of themselves!!

Why oh why are they allowed to incite such unhappiness amongst the population? Surely some good news would keep us all much more cheerful.
The best self-description of 'denial' that I have ever read.

It is the equivalent of putting two fingers in one's ears and refusing to listen.
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
The best self-description of 'denial' that I have ever read.

It is the equivalent of putting two fingers in one's ears and refusing to listen.

I prefer:
The ability to not get wound up by stupid innuendo, point scoring and trivia.
And/or not suffering fools lightly. Especially with regards the media!

But feel free to carry on.............
 

Ashtree

Member
Yeah, you mean like how the British government has said 'we have no qualm with glyphosate' yet the French want it banned out of hand and don't care a sh!t for any science?'

Hows that working for ya?

But, but, but, Field Marshal G
Are there too many SOB's (sad old barstewards) on these Brexit threads?

I wonder if some of them will make themselves ill, by it all! (if they haven't already!)
Or are some of them the sort that like to worry and thrive on making others unhappy with worry?

I also wonder if we ought to turn our TV's and radio's off and/or stop reading the newspapers (esp the Independent!) every time something about Brexit is mentioned.

How on earth our politicians can do anything properly when they are so over-scrutinised, I have no idea!
In fact, who the heck would want to be a politician these days when they get so abused by the media?

As a (former) avid Radio 4 listener, I have now switched to listening to Absolute radio, rather than listen to the drivel that is on the Today program and PM programs. These reporters should be utterly ashamed of themselves!!

Why oh why are they allowed to incite such unhappiness amongst the population? Surely some good news would keep us all much more cheerful.


Any anyway, the media should be more patriotic. Brexit means Brexit and there should be no questions asked. It’s clear that this government has a razor sharp understanding of all the issues. It’s abundantly clear that there is a clear and comprehensive plan which is being executed with military precision.
Why the media doesn’t fall in line is a mystery.
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
No, no, no, no! You are all missing the point!

How on earth are we going to be able to know how to farm if by having banned radio 4 from being played because of Brexit, we cannot listen to the Archers?

I wouldn't have a clue what to do!
How would @Ashtree know when it is time to plant his potatoes? Let alone harvest them?


PS, I don't think I have heard much, if anything about Brexit on the Archers - THANK GOD!!
 
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Walterp

Member
Location
Pembrokeshire
Or closing one's eyes and refusing to read...
I tend never to read your posts, because I know that you are unpleasant, believe you to be a bully, and I suspect you of either exaggerating or lying about your professional experience.

There is evidence to support all three conclusions.

Hence, your observations are worthless because you are dishonest.
 

Walterp

Member
Location
Pembrokeshire
I prefer:
The ability to not get wound up by stupid innuendo, point scoring and trivia.
And/or not suffering fools lightly. Especially with regards the media!

But feel free to carry on.............
To a dispassionate observer, this (and your previous remark) suggests a tendency to take a very narrow approach.

It's your prerogative, naturally; the criticism I would advance is that if you consciously avoid/ignore all information which casts doubt on your present interpretation of events, how can you ever alter it?

To my mind, a fixed point of view is, eventually, bound to be difficult to sustain in the light of subsequent information - except by ignoring that information. Try reading around the direction by the British army of the Somme offensive in 1916, or any other strategic mis-management in foreign affairs, where examples abound.

So you end up with an endless cycle of denial, much like the OP ignoring the existence of the EU internal market in his figures.
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
To a dispassionate observer, this (and your previous remark) suggests a tendency to take a very narrow approach.

It's your prerogative, naturally; the criticism I would advance is that if you consciously avoid/ignore all information which casts doubt on your present interpretation of events, how can you ever alter it?

To my mind, a fixed point of view is, eventually, bound to be difficult to sustain in the light of subsequent information - except by ignoring that information.

So you end up with an endless cycle of denial, much like the OP ignoring the existence of the EU internal market in his figures.
Er.... thanks for the advice Walter!

So glad to see you also following my advice to carry on, too......


I'll just be watching myself, to make sure that at least I, (being one of the two of us) doesn't dig any holes. And (to stop) digging them any deeper!

After all, it seems that you cannot stop yourself!

BFN
 
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Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Hardly surprising that the general public think farners are arrogant beneficiaries of the taxpayers largesse. What other impression does this create?

What is wrong exactly?
I have no idea who or where this is but the photo shows he/she has chosen not to park on the roadside, he is not obstructing the pavement, he has made sure he has left a clear disabled space, he has avoided the spaces facing the other way in which he would take 2 or 3 spaces.
You say the tractor was left running which I believe was done to indicate it was a very temporary park. As there is only one other car and plenty of free spaces it would seem very unlikely he would be in the way during that time.
All this suggests to me that the driver was being as considerate as possible and that the person taking the time and effort to take a photo and post it on a forum, in a completely unrelated thread, is in fact being a bit of an arse.
Especially when he doesn't know whether the driver is or is not disabled.
 

turbo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
I tend never to read your posts, because I know that you are unpleasant, believe you to be a bully, and I suspect you of either exaggerating or lying about your professional experience.

There is evidence to support all three conclusions.

Hence, your observations are worthless because you are dishonest.
Take him up on his offer then if you are sure you are right,as for being unpleasant there is no one more unpleasant than you on here at the moment
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
I tend never to read your posts, because I know that you are unpleasant, believe you to be a bully, and I suspect you of either exaggerating or lying about your professional experience.

There is evidence to support all three conclusions.

Hence, your observations are worthless because you are dishonest.

Unpleasant? You're a hypocrite. Bully? You try it on others, hypocrite again.

You write 'suspect' and 'are', inconsistent and wrong. I have demonstrated myself to be telling the truth, and you have run a mile from resolving the matter with a third party, twice now - the offer remains open. You could see me prosecuted and take me to the cleaners financially if you would toe the line, if you are right; but you won't because you're scared silly of categorically being proven a liar and bl**dy fool. It delights me that you keep demonstrating this. :)

Out of interest, will all your observations be worthless when you are proven to be telling untruths?

Getting back to the thread...
 

baabaa

Member
Location
co Antrim
I tend never to read your posts, because I know that you are unpleasant, believe you to be a bully, and I suspect you of either exaggerating or lying about your professional experience.

There is evidence to support all three conclusions.

Hence, your observations are worthless because you are dishonest.
show us the evidence :D:D:D
 

MickMoor

Member
Location
Bonsall, UK
What is wrong exactly?
I have no idea who or where this is but the photo shows he/she has chosen not to park on the roadside, he is not obstructing the pavement, he has made sure he has left a clear disabled space, he has avoided the spaces facing the other way in which he would take 2 or 3 spaces.
You say the tractor was left running which I believe was done to indicate it was a very temporary park. As there is only one other car and plenty of free spaces it would seem very unlikely he would be in the way during that time.
All this suggests to me that the driver was being as considerate as possible and that the person taking the time and effort to take a photo and post it on a forum, in a completely unrelated thread, is in fact being a bit of an arse.
Especially when he doesn't know whether the driver is or is not disabled.

I took this picture with the express intent of finding out if anybody would spring to his defence. Congratulations!
I won't waste any time telling you on how many counts he is wrong. He was not disabled, I watched him climb down from the cab and walk away as I approached.
 
Why should this country be politically hamstrung by a foreign power just because it aids you in selling sheepmeat?


If the government wanted to they could promote UK lamb in the UK rather than fund jobs in 27 other EU countries

This is a matter of choice, it really is down to us as a group of people to get the government we want .. please everyone GET involved and get rid ot Labour & Conservatives before we end up with the EU mk2 ... we CAN do this
 
To a dispassionate observer, this (and your previous remark) suggests a tendency to take a very narrow approach.

It's your prerogative, naturally; the criticism I would advance is that if you consciously avoid/ignore all information which casts doubt on your present interpretation of events, how can you ever alter it?

To my mind, a fixed point of view is, eventually, bound to be difficult to sustain in the light of subsequent information - except by ignoring that information. Try reading around the direction by the British army of the Somme offensive in 1916, or any other strategic mis-management in foreign affairs, where examples abound.

So you end up with an endless cycle of denial, much like the OP ignoring the existence of the EU internal market in his figures.


So "Dis-passionate" you put forward the promotion of IRA terrorist sympathisers.
 

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