Forage Aid

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
Yeah I get that, I was questioning the dig towards the NFU for doing nothing whilst the Dutch loaded lorries, most odd.

C B
I think at this point evryone wants to keep their heads .there is an abundance of feed straw that's now down to an affordable price. No one wants to sell hay atm as they all think the price will rise .just like they thought before harvest when they sold standing straw for unbelievable prices. just shows what panic can do
 

Guy Smith

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Location
Essex
ForageAid is a charity that takes contributions of fodder and/or straw and delivers them FOC to farmers who are in genuine need. Charities such as FCN and RABI authenticate that those requesting help are genuine. The haulage is also donated FOC by hauliers or other companies who have access to trucks. To date it has helped farmers severely impacted by the floods 2-3 years ago but given that some livestock farmers may be in real financial trouble this winter due to the summer drought then ForageAid will be looking to assist these people.

It is an excellent to charity and Andrew Ward is a top bloke.

It is an irrelevance if he sells straw on his own private farm. That has nothing to do with Forage Aid
 
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Guy Smith

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Location
Essex
I think at this point evryone wants to keep their heads .there is an abundance of feed straw that's now down to an affordable price. No one wants to sell hay atm as they all think the price will rise .just like they thought before harvest when they sold standing straw for unbelievable prices. just shows what panic can do

Derek, I'm a bit mystified by your comments.

On the one hand you seem to be saying the export of straw is wrong and should be stopped. Then you are saying the shortage of straw had been talked up causing to much to be baled. Then you say some farmers are cashing in on other farmers need. Then you are saying too much straw has been baled causing the price to fall.

Or have I misunderstood you?

The NFU have been proactive in encouraging arable farmers to bale straw and not chop it because it was clear early season that straw could be in short supply which could cause problems in the livestock sector. Estimates suggest up to 25% more straw has been baled this year. This seems to have taken the heat out of the market causing the price to ease back.
 
Anyone looking for free straw should wait at roundabouts, and pick up all these bales dropped by Fendt drivers.......:rolleyes::ROFLMAO:
I did get a free load of straw once when a lorry driver rolled his drag on a nearby roundabout.
I was asked to go and reload it but once I’d done that the police got awkward about him moving his drag due to damage so allowed it to be brought here and unloaded so that drag could be taken in for repair.
When the boss rang me he offered me the straw and told me to put a bill in for my troubles, personally I thought I’d been well paid and left it at that.
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
Derek, I'm a bit mystified by your comments.

On the one hand you seem to be saying the export of straw is wrong and should be stopped. Then you are saying the shortage of straw had been talked up causing to much to be baled. Then you say some farmers are cashing in on other farmers need. Then you are saying too much straw has been baled causing the price to fall.

Or have I misunderstood you?

The NFU have been proactive in encouraging arable farmers to bale straw and not chop it because it was clear early season that straw could be in short supply which could cause problems in the livestock sector. Estimates suggest up to 25% more straw has been baled this year. This seems to have taken the heat out of the market causing the price to ease back.
I think you are miss quoting me or miss understanding
Anyone who says to much as been baled does not understand market forces . I may be in abundant supply atm but let's see what happens later on . As for livestock farmers . They can't go wrong if they stock up now
And where have I said the export of straw is wrong .it's a trade that's been going on to Northern Ireland and Holland for many years and put a bottom in the market for Kent Farmers. My comment refers to hay going over to Southern Ireland when are own farmers are desperate for it
 
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turbo

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Arable Farmer
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lincs
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Had 12 acres of stubble that’s going to be spring cropped so stuck some stubble turnips in to help out the sheep farmers around here as their is no grass atm,not going to be gready as long as it covers my time and the seed I will be happy and you never know when you might need their help in the future
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
Oh the Grand old duke of York
He had ten thousand bales
He marched them up to the top of the hill
And he marched them down again
And when they were up they were up
And when they were down they were down
And when they were only halfway up
They were neither up nor down


This about sums up the straw trade
 

Hampton

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BASIS
Location
Shropshire
So let me get this straight.
He set up a very impressive charity which helped Farmers during the terrible floods of a few years ago, getting people in need out of difficulty in their time of need. We were one of many farmers who grouped together and sent forage to the Somerset levels.
Several years later their is a shortage of forage so aforementioned farmer bales straw which he is selling to a dealer, who in turn is selling to livestock farmers. He is attaching the forage aid hashtag to it and earnestly telling people how benevolent it is.
When someone picks him up on this, he attacks them personally and then declares that because someone was charitable a few years ago they have earned the right to act however they like now (see video and reply on Twitter).
Hmmm...
 

DRC

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I have looked into bringing muck back and it can be done quite easy but what about black grass in the muck ?
What about black grass in the straw, never mind the muck. Seen it over the hedge. Straw bought from dealer from goodness knows where, muck put into ground rented for maize and hey ho, black grass in following wheat , exactly where muck was tipped.
 
Just wondering how this works ? do the farmers and hauliers involved all give straw and services free of charge as donations ?

See a few farmers on twitter etc tweeting about the straw they are baling to help the livestock farms and wondering if they are being charitable or are they making money from it ?

Some sell it at a sensible price and some give it away. Last time this happened we donated barley and wheat straw via email exchanges but it was never picked up .....

As with everything pinch of salt.
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
What about black grass in the straw, never mind the muck. Seen it over the hedge. Straw bought from dealer from goodness knows where, muck put into ground rented for maize and hey ho, black grass in following wheat , exactly where muck was tipped.
It was the straw I was referring to. If a farmer wants a muck for straw deal if hes not getting his own straw back then what then ?
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
Some sell it at a sensible price and some give it away. Last time this happened we donated barley and wheat straw via email exchanges but it was never picked up .....

As with everything pinch of salt.
Two of the biggest operations in Kent are loading wheat in the 60ts .the are both profesional concerns and inline with most others on price .I don't know if you class that as giving it away . Your 90 is way off the mark but if you can get that good luck to you
 

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