Forage wagon
- Thread starter tower2238
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- Lancashire, Home of the Deluge
Strautmann Super Vitesse.
Farmer owned and operated wagon. Full spec with auto greaser, steering axle, cargo lights and sprung drawbar. Very low load count. 1503.
www.classifieds.farm
This looks good, I have one exactly the same.
Low load count as well....
Strautmann Super Vitesse.
Farmer owned and operated wagon. Full spec with auto greaser, steering axle, cargo lights and sprung drawbar. Very low load count. 1503.
This looks good, I have one exactly the same.
Low load count as well....
Weare Cham
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- Location
- N. Devon
Forage Wagons South West
Used and New Forage Wagons Lely Mengle Pottinger Claas Stonepicking Devon
foragewagonssouthwest.com
I'm going to assume that you have called the usual people a quick Google throws up.
Durt Burd
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- Location
- SE Ireland
Forage Wagons South West have anything? Otherwise Townson Tractors and Lloyds had used Torros. Might also be worth having a look at Smallridge Bros and Halse of Honiton. Hunter Kane in Northern Ireland tend to have a couple of used machines
Yes I haveForage Wagons South West
Used and New Forage Wagons Lely Mengle Pottinger Claas Stonepicking Devon
I'm going to assume that you have called the usual people a quick Google throws up.
- Location
- Acton Scott, South Shropshire
Edwards and farmer near Shrewsbury?
Not a very well minded wagon , and where are the knife holders gone .
Lawnseed
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Firstly hire one. Countless farmers think that a wagon is the way to go.
You need to know that it's damned hard work, you can haul every blade of grass yourself. No help. Long draws and short draws. The grass itself is harder to buckrake. The struttman is about the only one that can handle big windrows 30ft or more. But they have to be narrow. Your wagon tractor needs to be big, the bigger the better. A decent load of damp grass will put you into 35t gross. The bulk of the weight will be on the trailer axles.. A light tractor will be bossed around by the wagon. If you're land is hilly.. This will make it worse.
Most farmers don't spend days behind the scenes of the tractor, at least not 18hr days. With one wagon you will do it all yourself.
Fix punctures, broken chains, grease, sharpen blades, not to mention the tractor. Fill diesel, and any maintenance... All yourself. It's a big undertaking and considerable investment in money and time. It's nice to stand and watch it flying in past by a contractor and just cover it.
There are plenty of wagons forsale from farmers who thought there's nothing to it.
Alexander Mills has two Bergmann wagons.. He wouldn't be hard to talk to atm.
I saw one working they're not to bad. 20ft max windrow..
At home we mow, ted and rake and buckrake. A contractor comes with a pottinger torro on a 230 case puma and lifts it. We pay him for lifting only and its not very expensive. The silage is always better outta the wagon. This could be an option if you keep a 120hp tractor for slurry or whatever but don't need a 230hp tractor or the expense of a wagon. Put a good front linkage on your 120hp and a decent buckrake and you'll be well able for any loads that arrive.
Have a real hard think about buying a wagon, all is not rosey in the garden.
You need to know that it's damned hard work, you can haul every blade of grass yourself. No help. Long draws and short draws. The grass itself is harder to buckrake. The struttman is about the only one that can handle big windrows 30ft or more. But they have to be narrow. Your wagon tractor needs to be big, the bigger the better. A decent load of damp grass will put you into 35t gross. The bulk of the weight will be on the trailer axles.. A light tractor will be bossed around by the wagon. If you're land is hilly.. This will make it worse.
Most farmers don't spend days behind the scenes of the tractor, at least not 18hr days. With one wagon you will do it all yourself.
Fix punctures, broken chains, grease, sharpen blades, not to mention the tractor. Fill diesel, and any maintenance... All yourself. It's a big undertaking and considerable investment in money and time. It's nice to stand and watch it flying in past by a contractor and just cover it.
There are plenty of wagons forsale from farmers who thought there's nothing to it.
Alexander Mills has two Bergmann wagons.. He wouldn't be hard to talk to atm.
I saw one working they're not to bad. 20ft max windrow..
At home we mow, ted and rake and buckrake. A contractor comes with a pottinger torro on a 230 case puma and lifts it. We pay him for lifting only and its not very expensive. The silage is always better outta the wagon. This could be an option if you keep a 120hp tractor for slurry or whatever but don't need a 230hp tractor or the expense of a wagon. Put a good front linkage on your 120hp and a decent buckrake and you'll be well able for any loads that arrive.
Have a real hard think about buying a wagon, all is not rosey in the garden.
dowcow
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- Location
- Lancashire
There's nothing like having your own wagon. The four day weather window we just had was just enough time to get our second cut in, doing about 40 acre in one day starting in the afternoon on close draws, and 25 the next on longer draws with a 120hp tractor, plus 15 acres of hay round bales. It is flat land mind, but we would have struggled to get a contractor especially as our buckrake is limited in its physical size due to a roof on the clamp. That little window between a couple of wet weeks meant pretty much everyone who had grass to shift and had their own equipment to do it was doing it, while those using contractors were in a queue and some of them had longer days than us going well on through the night after we gave up when the dew came down. Some were lucky, our grass was a week over where I would have preferred to cut it for quality, and some people must now be heading for 2 weeks over with another unsettled week ahead.
Actually tractor on the wagon was at its limit too, on the hottest day of the year I had to stop a couple of times and let it tickover for 5 minutes as the back end was playing up... that was heat soak in the hottest part of the afternoon, was fine when the temperature started dropping in the evening. Buckrake was overheating constantly though. Long days, but long days will be spent carting slurry afterwards too. We've always chopped our own grass though, and the wagon is certainly easier than the trailed harvester where there was all the maintenance of the forager as well as the trailers and an extra tractor. I really wouldn't mind a Case Puma for the lifting though.... 230hp would be daft here but a nice 150cvx or something would be a real treat and *might* fit easily through some of the gateways on the rented fields
Actually tractor on the wagon was at its limit too, on the hottest day of the year I had to stop a couple of times and let it tickover for 5 minutes as the back end was playing up... that was heat soak in the hottest part of the afternoon, was fine when the temperature started dropping in the evening. Buckrake was overheating constantly though. Long days, but long days will be spent carting slurry afterwards too. We've always chopped our own grass though, and the wagon is certainly easier than the trailed harvester where there was all the maintenance of the forager as well as the trailers and an extra tractor. I really wouldn't mind a Case Puma for the lifting though.... 230hp would be daft here but a nice 150cvx or something would be a real treat and *might* fit easily through some of the gateways on the rented fields
Lawnseed
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Depends on your land.. Hills are hard work with a wagon. Weight transfer to the back of the tractor is minimal. We used to half fill on the flat then go to the hills.
Certainly on level ground you can get away with alot less power. There are very few machines as demanding as a silage wagon on the tractor your pulling it and pto is going too plus your hydraulics and electrics.. Brakes and clutches hot too.. Then probably aircon too.
120 hp is the minimum really. Unless you get back into a pottinger ladeprofi they have a paddle system instead of the spiral grass pusher. I started with 135 hp and went to 170hp on a super vittess 2h. Special order with the giga vittess pickup and double chassis. Brilliant wagons but you still had to sit in the tractor 18hrs a day. You soon get sick of grass.
Certainly on level ground you can get away with alot less power. There are very few machines as demanding as a silage wagon on the tractor your pulling it and pto is going too plus your hydraulics and electrics.. Brakes and clutches hot too.. Then probably aircon too.
120 hp is the minimum really. Unless you get back into a pottinger ladeprofi they have a paddle system instead of the spiral grass pusher. I started with 135 hp and went to 170hp on a super vittess 2h. Special order with the giga vittess pickup and double chassis. Brilliant wagons but you still had to sit in the tractor 18hrs a day. You soon get sick of grass.
Where are you based would help.
Scotland, haulage not a problem
Don’t see it on their website?
Might be sold then, worth a call.
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