Ford 4600 2wd to 4wd conversion?

Discussion in 'Classic Machinery' started by hendrebc, Jan 8, 2019.

  1. If you can get someone breaking a 4wd 46 or 4610 and get all the parts out of the same tractor all you need to do is put it together and the gearing will be right for 13.6 x 36 rear and 11.2 x 24 front.
    If not and you buy bits from different tractors you might need to put different tyre combinations on to get gearing right cos as boohoo says there is different ratio axles and drop boxes.
    Whoever said about ford axles wearing the castings must have been feared of the grease gun! Ford never made axles they were carraro axles which were fitted to more than just fords.
    Get the bits and get her converted!
    What cab's on her?
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  2. Thanks I'll have a look what's about. It's dad's tractor though and he isn't as keen as I am but if I find the parts I'm sure he could be persuaded :whistle:
    I don't know what the type of is called but I'll take some pictures tomorrow. I got her running today after a while standing with no battery :oops:
  3. multi power

    multi power Member

    690 has different gearing to 675
  4. This is my one i converted now with the standard wheels. 20190109_120740.jpg
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  5. Two Tone

    Two Tone Member

    I’m not to sure of the situation with Fords, but with the MFs, when you replace the wafer box with the transfer box, you must make sure you have the shorter drive shaft that fits between the transfer box and the dif, than the longer one that went from the gearbox, through the wafer box, then to the dif.
    This didn’t come with the kit I used on my 675. So I had to buy a new one. It turned out to be the same one as used on a 135, which doesn’t have a wafer box.
    It cost more than I paid for the rest of the kit!
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2019
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  6. Drillman

    Drillman Member

    North Yorkshire
    Biggest machinery related regret I have is selling our 2wd ford 7610, I should have converted it to 4wd and kept it.
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  7. KennyO

    KennyO Member

    @hendrebc would any parts off ford diggers fit? Were they not 3cyl tractor based?
  8. I had a 7610 pedal tractor when I was a kid. Was gutted when dad bought a ford 6610 with a loader when I was about 10. The same but not quite :unsure: yet to drive one but I WILL one day even if it means buying one and doing it up a bit (y)
    I also had a case 5140 pedal tractor but I've driven one of those and it tried to kill me on a really steep hill and it ran away jumping out of year (n)
    Maybe it's best not to get a 7610 I'm case it turns out to be a big letdown as well :rolleyes:
  9. Possibly. I think an old ford 550 digger on a farm I used to help on was based on a 5600 but I might be wrong. It's what my then boss told me but doesn't mean he was right :rolleyes:
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  10. mikep

    mikep Member

    Some were 3 and some 4 doesn't seem to be a reason same with the 500 judging by the skid units. Don't know if it was dependent on the transmission as a lot were torque converter.
    Don't think the front axles would-be any good as they were Schindler and parts are rare
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  11. Saw this for sale on facebook a couple of months ago, and thought i wouldnt mind it, the guy was only asking £6 or £6.5k for it, and before i could contact him it sold, i was gutted !

    Gwynedd farm machinery broke one up last year, or the year before, but broke the tractor into singular components ( castings, gears etc) so buying the front axle, front bolster, prop and drop box was not an option. :(
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  12. Markmex

    Markmex New Member

    Hello everyone, my name is Mark and I'm from the west of Ireland. I was doing some googling trying to find some info on a Ford 4600 4wd I bought when I came across this thread so I decided to sign up and hopefully somebody here can help me with quesions I have. Im big into Ford tractors and also have a few classic ford cars and a mk2 transit. I'll post a few pics of the tractors and the 4600 in question. I bought it about a year ago but as yet I have done very little with it. It runs well and the cab is not too rotten but on the downside it is missing the 4wd propshaft and there is a dropbox type thing on the front axle also missing. I bought the tractor at an auction and had no information as to what was wrong with the axle or what happened to it. As I said I have had little time to do anything with it but I have managed to source an axle which I still haven't collected. From what I can see the propshaft must run at an angle underneath the tractor and it also run very close to the underside of the gearbox. I have Googled lots of 4600 4wd pics but every one seemed to be taken from the opposite side to the prop or from a different angle so I can never get a look at how it runs. If anyone here could post a close up pic it would be much appreciated. Anyway enough waffling, I'll get a few pics!
  13. Markmex

    Markmex New Member

  14. try Gwynedd farm machinery, your 4600 looks the standard ford 4600 4wd that ford built in the eighties, bar the rear axle, uk spec was a 6 stud rear axle, export spec was8 stud like yours.
    They has broken a few 4wd 4600/ 4610s , he might still have a propshaft.
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  15. Mark, also theres a few good ford groups on facebook thst are worth joining too.
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  16. Aye propshaft runs at an angle and tight to underside. You'll not get your finger between it. Will take pictures later.
    Never seen a factory fitted 4wd 4600 with power assisted steering.
    If you get a chance stick up a few pictures of the dropbox below the cab and the front axle and hubs.
  17. Markmex

    Markmex New Member

    Thanks very much Hillbilly, I saw they had parts on ebay so I looked them up on Google and got a contact number for them. I called on 2 occasions, both times they told me they would check if they had the parts I was after and call me back but unfortunately I never heard back from them. I've since got hold of a complete axle which solves that part of the problem. I'm not too worried about the prop, I'm sure I can get ends off some old shafts to match the flanges on my tractor and get a shaft made, I've got ones made before for other projects by a local company but I suppose if I could get an original one it would be easier.
  18. Markmex

    Markmex New Member

    Would they not have had power steering from the factory? They would have been hard on the shoulders after a long day!! Or do you mean the set up on mine instead of the proper power steering box?
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